Tune ECU / PCV Question

[Claviger]

You're right Dougl, it is a bit simpler.

I prefer spending the extra 30 seconds to hook up a laptop and build a table so I know all the numbers exactly vs a range.

Different stroke different folks and all that.

 

[dougl]

So the Dobeck allows for using a full A/F target table? Presumably one could use a table developed for the PCV AT.

 

[Claviger]

Not as far as I can tell from the site, the "table" so to speak for the dobeck is the lights, as far as I can tell from their website.

 

[dougl]

Not as far as I can tell from the site, the "table" so to speak for the dobeck is the lights, as far as I can tell from their website.

The A/F table in a standard R2 tune has 640 TP/RPM cells in TuneECU. How do you get this level of detail into the Dobeck?

 

[Claviger]

Now sir, you've nailed why I prefer PC-V to dobeck.

Dobeck lets you give it an AFR target for a given RPM, or RPM range, then it interprets those set points you've given it into its own table. It's done by the software, based on the premise that a table of 640 points can be derived from 3 or 4 set points.

 

[dougl]

Now sir, you've nailed why I prefer PC-V to dobeck.

Dobeck lets you give it an AFR target for a given RPM, or RPM range, then it interprets those set points you've given it into its own table. It's done by the software, based on the premise that a table of 640 points can be derived from 3 or 4 set points.

I guess the question is how much does all that detail buy you? If you can get a good running bike with 6 points, perhaps Paul should recommend that.

 

[Paul Bryant]

I guess the question is how much does all that detail buy you? If you can get a good running bike with 6 points, perhaps Paul should recommend that.

This is why I was looking at this unit.
Take the situation where there is no decent tuner available, a dealer who sells Triumphs but doesn't know the first thing about them and a Guy who doesn't have the skills to load a tune, whats the best suggestion I can make ?
We're not talking high Horse power bikes here, just Joe Average who wants his bike to be a little different from others and wants/requires it set up appropriately. It's not a matter of money.
Sure you and I might have a decent tuner/skills etc available and be prepared to spend what ever it takes, but what about the guy who does not have this?
That's what I'm looking at.

 

[Claviger]

Tuning devices give you the ability to destroy a perfectly good motor with a simple misunderstanding.

Because of that, in my opinion, 90% of people have no business messing with them. You can be certain, if there is a way to **** it up, someone will.

If a USB cord, and following 6 steps, is too much for someone in 2016, I don't even know what to say, it's literally easier than cooking spaghetti, changing oil, or installing their new slip on / header.


For that individual, those who are totally electronically illiterates, I'd ask them to mail me their ECU and flash it for them if I were a business, it removes the guess work and missunderstanding.

 

[HansO]

e-mail sent

 

[Paul Bryant]

So does anyone have any practical, or sensible suggestions regarding how I can help these people?