Alarm

[cr0ft]

You can shoot a thief in Texas if you catch them on your property taking what is yours!!!

I don't think you can kill a person in Texas either unless you're under direct personal threat without consequences.

And if you can, that's proof that Texas is a lawless hellhole, theft doesn't get a death sentence in a court of law and it shouldn't be acceptable if a vigilante kills someone in the street for it either.

 

[cusso ken]

Many years ago my parents home was burgled by some filthy low life scum, who not only ransacked the home but smashed things they couldn't carry ,as it was an isolated farm house and my parents were away for a week they returned to find the power had been turned off and the freezer was full of rotting meat ect, the Police said it was one of a number of simular incidents and no arrests were ever made ,if my brothers and I and even Dad had found the scum we would probably be just getting out of gaol now. some bleeding hearts would probably say they were crying out for help, we would have dealt with them using rule.303

 

[Chris Kelley]

I don't think you can kill a person in Texas either unless you're under direct personal threat without consequences.

And if you can, that's proof that Texas is a lawless hellhole, theft doesn't get a death sentence in a court of law and it shouldn't be acceptable if a vigilante kills someone in the street for it either.

Different states have different levels of restriction on what they consider reasonable use of a firearm for self defense. As a rule, shooting someone in the street for attempting to take your stuff (without a threat of physical harm to you or another person) is a crime. However what is considered defense of the home varies from state to state. Some states require that there be solid evidence that the shooter had reason to believe that they or occupants in the home were in immanent danger. Other states have their laws written in such a way that the presence of an uninvited stranger in the home is reason enough to feel threatened and would therefore justify action with a firearm. There are a lot of states where there's a joke that floats around that basically goes, "If you shoot someone in the yard, the cops really appreciate it if you drag them inside the house. It gives them less paperwork". (It's a pretty horrible sentiment, but please recognize it reflects the frustration a lot of lawful gun owners feel about the risks involved in exercising the right to defend their homes)

The really nasty irony is that in the event someone feels the need to resolve a situation with a firearm, it's almost always better to outright kill the target rather than to attempt to shoot to stop someone without the loss of life. Many concealed carry instructors advise that when the need to fire arises, fire all the rounds available. There have been a few trials where the prosecution successfully argued that a person in control of their firearm could not possibly be afraid for their life. Even in the event that there is no criminal trial, civil suites can be filed and the fact that the shooter 'was too calm' can be used against the defender.

 

[Bedifferent]

The alarmed Xena disc locks work great. Slightest movement of the bike and they go off - and they are LOUD. Not so sensitive that wind or just brushing past will set it off but anyone touches you bike or the lock it will be triggered. They cost around $60, are simple to use and can't leave you stranded (unless you loose the key).

I still like the Xena disc lock. I just bought the XX14 a while back. It about ruptured my ear drums. If that doesn't stop/deter them, they are going to get your bike anyway. No alarm will make a difference if they want it. I always park next to a shiny Harley! I figure they will go for that first....no one wants my Rocket except me! If they only knew, it would be gone!

 

[Bedifferent]

Already have the disc brake lock with alarm, a 1.7 kilo ABUS Detecto 8000. It's a massive behemoth of a lock, fits the Rocket. Set me back a bit more than a Xena, but I've heard bad things about the Xenas - like that you can disable the speaker by ramming a screwdriver into it from the outside, nothing like that is exposed on this one. It just requires someone to jostle the bike quite severely before it starts howling, I wouldn't mind something that actually detected that someone was standing still right next to it.

I'm not sure about that....it's all on the back side on the Xena and I would think it would be pretty tough to get at it. Besides, the alarm is a nice feature but the actual lock is the important part. No body wants to steal my Rocket anyway. There are better bikes to pick from when it comes to stripping or selling.

 

[Bedifferent]

Anybody got a Xena XX-14? Reading Amazon reviews and appears that they don't fit their Thunderbird 900, wondering if it would work on an R3.

I just bought the X14 awhile back and it fits my 2013 Touring just fine. I like it. All you need to do is see how deep the throat has to be to make it to the holes or spaces in your disc. They give you the throat and pin size for the lock.

 

[Bedifferent]

Who would want to steal a big ugly r3? What are you going to do with it ? Part it out ? If I was going to steal a bike it would be a nice little Harley real easy to partout

Therein lies the reality of the situation. I only disc lock mine for a little peace of mind, but it couldn't possibly be their first choice to steal. They might as well try and load a dump truck. I'll say it again, if they only knew how it goes and rides, I would be more worried.

 

[RockinHP]

Here is what I can find on defense of property in Texas.
SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY
Sec. 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY.
(a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.
(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or
(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

 

[TOMCAT]

Get yourselves a Mastiff .. not only do they protect home and contents they are a riot with their maniac antics .. safe and chuckling

 

[1olbull]

Anybody got a Xena XX-14? Reading Amazon reviews and appears that they don't fit their Thunderbird 900, wondering if it would work on an R3.

Aware that your post is old, I just installed my new Zena XX14 onto my Rocket Roadster for the first time and HAD to comment.
1) It fits the Rocket just fine!
2) Super simple to use and . . . LOUD!!!