Wayne at Tuneboy did dyno tunes using Tuneboy for Triumph aftermarket exhaust and got 145 hp and 157 hp ft lbs. Adding triple Unifilters with the same exhaust gave 151 hp and 158 ft lbs. While the absolute numbers may vary from dyno to dyno and bike to bike, this is the kind of difference you should expect.
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Not bad. I have decided to do the mod. Found the exhaust used, so I have more in the budget to play.
Thanks for the info!
Tim
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I can attest that a R3T with triple K&Ns, D&Ds, and a TuneBoy make for a very different and very potent machine.
I just completed the mod a few weeks ago and am still scared to whack it full throttle in 1st. My roommate (ex V-Max pilot) did it on asphalt and put down an 8' black mark and carried the front wheel a foot off the ground for quite a distance!
It's truly a no brainer.
Archer
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I can attest that a R3T with triple K&Ns, D&Ds, and a TuneBoy make for a very different and very potent machine.
I just completed the mod a few weeks ago and am still scared to whack it full throttle in 1st. My roommate (ex V-Max pilot) did it on asphalt and put down an 8' black mark and carried the front wheel a foot off the ground for quite a distance!
It's truly a no brainer.
Archer
Seabrook, TX
You're next mod is going to be a new rear tire.
albertaduke
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I wouldn't waste any money on a tune until you have everything in place, otherwise it will just have to be done again later.
Removing the secondaries is FREE, (3) K&N RU-2780's and (1) K&N 62-1340 for the crank case breather is around $150, and a GiPro $165. You said you already have a PCIII right? Get the tune for D&D's (FREE), remove the secondaries (FREE) and install the filters. If you run out of money, stop there for awhile. Later on get a GiPro. Then if you have the money, go ahead and get it tuned.
personally I am religiously going to follow this procedure I already mounted the gipro , the only diff will be whether I buy a PC111 or a dobeck . skip likes the dobeck and considering that dobeck applies only extra fuel in various regime with easy instruction, I would be inclined to go that way ,use my ears to add fuel and later go to a shop and get the bike fine tuned so unless hellfire tells me otherwise
I will order the filters first and later on the electronics I still have the 020219 tune on the bike from the dealership.
should that be a concern or should I get another triumph tune more friendly to the jardine KN filters and secondaries removed?? let me know.
I know that once the weather improves I will ride regardless most of the time and less time on this computer .
Removing the secondaries is FREE, (3) K&N RU-2780's and (1) K&N 62-1340 for the crank case breather is around $150, and a GiPro $165. You said you already have a PCIII right? Get the tune for D&D's (FREE), remove the secondaries (FREE) and install the filters. If you run out of money, stop there for awhile. Later on get a GiPro. Then if you have the money, go ahead and get it tuned.
personally I am religiously going to follow this procedure I already mounted the gipro , the only diff will be whether I buy a PC111 or a dobeck . skip likes the dobeck and considering that dobeck applies only extra fuel in various regime with easy instruction, I would be inclined to go that way ,use my ears to add fuel and later go to a shop and get the bike fine tuned so unless hellfire tells me otherwise
I will order the filters first and later on the electronics I still have the 020219 tune on the bike from the dealership.
should that be a concern or should I get another triumph tune more friendly to the jardine KN filters and secondaries removed?? let me know.
I know that once the weather improves I will ride regardless most of the time and less time on this computer .
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Duke I have concerns about the dobek insomuch as getting help here later on. Myself and many others here are familiar with the PCIII and can help you set it up and get canned tunes or copies of dyno'd bikes. Your aid availability is seriously hampered in the case of the dobek, there aren't any "tunes" that can be loaded to finish the install or even to use as a starting point. It's up to you if you want to try and adjust the fuel by ear and save a few bucks, I do know that the PCIII combination I told you about got me the same dyno results Dougl mentioned above with the tuneboy and same mods as mine, so there isn't any power advantages either way in tuneboy vs PCIII, I couldn't tell you what to expect out of the dobek. Skip likes it, I'd love to see how it does on a dyno to compare results.
You are right to not remove the secondaries or install the triples until you have a way to adjust the mix, doing those in combination is the best way.
Don't concern yourself about the triumph tune, I'm sure it's fine and can be tweeked later on with either the PCIII or dobek, once the secondaries are removed it won't matter.
You might want to decide which way you are going to install the triple K&N's, whether you are going to slap a filter/cover over the temperature probe or install it back into the airflow by putting a hole in #1 K&N so that it can properly read the intake temps. If you go that way you will only need one small filter for the crank case vent. Deciding in advance will save you spending money on a second little filter and give you the chance to make a short extension for it's wiring harness.
Whatever you decide to do, I'm sure there will be someone here willing to help if you get stumped, so don't worry yourself any until the big day arrives where the parts start flying. LOL
You are right to not remove the secondaries or install the triples until you have a way to adjust the mix, doing those in combination is the best way.
Don't concern yourself about the triumph tune, I'm sure it's fine and can be tweeked later on with either the PCIII or dobek, once the secondaries are removed it won't matter.
You might want to decide which way you are going to install the triple K&N's, whether you are going to slap a filter/cover over the temperature probe or install it back into the airflow by putting a hole in #1 K&N so that it can properly read the intake temps. If you go that way you will only need one small filter for the crank case vent. Deciding in advance will save you spending money on a second little filter and give you the chance to make a short extension for it's wiring harness.
Whatever you decide to do, I'm sure there will be someone here willing to help if you get stumped, so don't worry yourself any until the big day arrives where the parts start flying. LOL
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Ordered everything today!! Ordered the filters from outerwear's and the prechargers. All the filters are on backorder. Got the bolt from jegs, and the gipro from eBay. Happy bday to me!!
Tim
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Man Hellfire, I just read your post! I am planning on cutting a hole in the filter for the temp sensor. So which filter is for the temp sensor? Need to change my order to exclude that one. I just ordered all the filters not knowing exactly where or what they were used for. It's the 1340 or the 1560 right?
Tim
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albertaduke
former airline pilot without the big bucks
Duke I have concerns about the dobek insomuch as getting help here later on. Myself and many others here are familiar with the PCIII and can help you set it up and get canned tunes or copies of dyno'd bikes. Your aid availability is seriously hampered in the case of the dobek, there aren't any "tunes" that can be loaded to finish the install or even to use as a starting point. It's up to you if you want to try and adjust the fuel by ear and save a few bucks, I do know that the PCIII combination I told you about got me the same dyno results Dougl mentioned above with the tuneboy and same mods as mine, so there isn't any power advantages either way in tuneboy vs PCIII, I couldn't tell you what to expect out of the dobek. Skip likes it, I'd love to see how it does on a dyno to compare results.
You are right to not remove the secondaries or install the triples until you have a way to adjust the mix, doing those in combination is the best way.
Don't concern yourself about the triumph tune, I'm sure it's fine and can be tweeked later on with either the PCIII or dobek, once the secondaries are removed it won't matter.
You might want to decide which way you are going to install the triple K&N's, whether you are going to slap a filter/cover over the temperature probe or install it back into the airflow by putting a hole in #1 K&N so that it can properly read the intake temps. If you go that way you will only need one small filter for the crank case vent. Deciding in advance will save you spending money on a second little filter and give you the chance to make a short extension for it's wiring harness.
Whatever you decide to do, I'm sure there will be someone here willing to help if you get stumped, so don't worry yourself any until the big day arrives where the parts start flying. LOL
thanks a bunch Hellfire I will follow your advice go PC111 with temp sensor in filter then I will seek your good advices.. now I am modeling with clay a front bottom spoiler when done I will post pictures ,I feel $359 bucks for a fiberglass one is too much. by the way the pipes maker for the japanese R# on youtube is HEAT MAGIC in japan I posted the link on pipes threads.
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Junkie placing the probe in the first filter is the closest but there's no reason you couldn't use any of them. The wires are just a tad too short to reach the first filter (which is probably why most just stick a cover over it and leave it dangle), but the connector is basically just blade type and a short extension is easy enough to make yourself. It will end up just plugging into the harness and then onto the contacts sticking out of the probe with a couple inches of wire in between. You will need two, they are identical. I wrapped it all with electrical tape to keep out dirt and water, but shrink tubing could work too. Install the filters first to adjust them the way you want and so they will fit under the bear-claw if thats how you will be doing it, then remove the first one to cut the hole.
I made the hole in the first filter on the side facing in, cutting it just large enough for the sensor to fit. It will almost stay in by itself but I used a hot glue gun to run a bead around the hole inside and out, let it start to get solid and then fit the sensor into it while molding it around the sensor with my fingers until it solidified. You could also probably wrap the sensor in something like plastic wrap, or oil it up so the glue doesn't stick directly to the metal, it's however you want to do it, just make it snug enough that it stays put. The object is to shape the hot glue to the sensor like the grommet it used to fit into so it can be removed for filter cleaning. After that is done and cooled solid, remove the sensor and install the prefilter over the filter and align it the way you want it, then I used a soldering iron to melt the hole for the sensor. Melting instead of cutting keeps it from fraying. There might be a better way to do it, this is just what I came up with, whatever works. Then just install the filter over the throttle body like the rest of them.
At least this way the probe gets a chance to do it's thing in the wind rather than sitting in the heat over the valve cover. The sensor itself doesn't suck any air, it's passive and has to be exposed to the intake airflow to take it's temp readings. Sticking a filter over it is a good idea to keep it clean and from coming in contact directly with hot engine parts, but no air flows through it.
Good luck and you can PM me if I can be of help.
I made the hole in the first filter on the side facing in, cutting it just large enough for the sensor to fit. It will almost stay in by itself but I used a hot glue gun to run a bead around the hole inside and out, let it start to get solid and then fit the sensor into it while molding it around the sensor with my fingers until it solidified. You could also probably wrap the sensor in something like plastic wrap, or oil it up so the glue doesn't stick directly to the metal, it's however you want to do it, just make it snug enough that it stays put. The object is to shape the hot glue to the sensor like the grommet it used to fit into so it can be removed for filter cleaning. After that is done and cooled solid, remove the sensor and install the prefilter over the filter and align it the way you want it, then I used a soldering iron to melt the hole for the sensor. Melting instead of cutting keeps it from fraying. There might be a better way to do it, this is just what I came up with, whatever works
. Then just install the filter over the throttle body like the rest of them.At least this way the probe gets a chance to do it's thing in the wind rather than sitting in the heat over the valve cover. The sensor itself doesn't suck any air, it's passive and has to be exposed to the intake airflow to take it's temp readings. Sticking a filter over it is a good idea to keep it clean and from coming in contact directly with hot engine parts, but no air flows through it.
Good luck and you can PM me if I can be of help.
