CAT Delete/TORS

[speedfrk]

Look in the bearclaw section for a post titled "Losing Faith". There you will see the bad, ugly, and finally a little good.

 

[captain jack]

Just had Ramair filter system fitted along with cat bypass & PCV with A/T. The tune in the ECU is standard triumph for TORS, would I see a difference with an tune ecu map instead. My Dyno tuner recons it wont matter as the PCV masks it all anyway. Thoughts please gents!!!

 

[steve59]

Since the union jobs went away and I work as hard for about 1/3d the pay and gasoline cost my wife and I $150.-$200.00 a week if I want to go faster my option is to jump out a window a really high window. I remember my first test ride on my Rocket...I decided to trade in my Storm and the acceleration was amazing. I spent a few days dealing b4 I became the proudest R3 owner....If the paying jobs ever return(i remain skeptical)or I win lotto a bolt on supercharger sounds pretty cool, a 2nd beater bike sounds good to.

 

[ozrider]

Just had Ramair filter system fitted along with cat bypass & PCV with A/T. The tune in the ECU is standard triumph for TORS, would I see a difference with an tune ecu map instead. My Dyno tuner recons it wont matter as the PCV masks it all anyway. Thoughts please gents!!!

I run IanTune.HEX TuneECU program, it has 100% secondaries and no ignition retard in the lower gears.
As soon as my Dyno guy ran the bike up he knew a flash had been done in the main ECU but the final trimming is done in the PCV

 

[HansO]

I run IanTune.HEX TuneECU program, it has 100% secondaries and no ignition retard in the lower gears.
As soon as my Dyno guy ran the bike up he knew a flash had been done in the main ECU but the final trimming is done in the PCV

you beat me to it Les, I was just seeing if i could upload the file like we could on the old platform Capt Jack send me your e-mail and I will send it to you plus my PCV +AT AFR Map then you wont have to go to dyno

 

[RocketRoger]

Ok all you performance junkies, what is the real world performance gains when installing a CAT delete kit along with a set of TORS and of course a tune? Thanks.

Same question only on R3Roadster (2011)? Want to start some upgrades.

Any spicific info appreciated: DB sound level, weight, HP and Torque differance.

 

[CanberraR3]

I don't have any dyno numbers but this was my experience on my '09 Standard with 3 pipe system.

TORS and Staintune cat delete were louder than stock but not excessively. You don't get a deep rumble though; some say a little raspy. I reckon they sounded a little like a Brit sports car - say, a Jaguar. Staintune or MadDog pipes, for example, will give a deeper sound.

Performance seemed better, especially low down. I think TORS, having a slightly smaller internal diameter than say, Staintune, are actually designed with torque increase in mind more than hp. My bike did spin out really well too and, with triple K&N filters and a Dobeck was as quick as anything else out there and certainly more than fast enough for me. As noted, you will need either a tune or some other way to increase fuelling. The stock Triumph TORS tune is too lean on its own. I used a Dobeck and still have the TORS tune and it works fine.

The TORS and filters have now gone and are sitting in my garage. New set-up is definitely better, so I'd view TORS as a more than adequate and very cost effective system for moderate gains and good sound. I was very happy with it and changed it opportunistically rather than due to any performance issue (although I did want better sound).

 

[RocketRoger]

I don't have any dyno numbers but this was my experience on my '09 Standard with 3 pipe system.

TORS and Staintune cat delete were louder than stock but not excessively. You don't get a deep rumble though; some say a little raspy. I reckon they sounded a little like a Brit sports car - say, a Jaguar. Staintune or MadDog pipes, for example, will give a deeper sound.

Performance seemed better, especially low down. I think TORS, having a slightly smaller internal diameter than say, Staintune, are actually designed with torque increase in mind more than hp. My bike did spin out really well too and, with triple K&N filters and a Dobeck was as quick as anything else out there and certainly more than fast enough for me. As noted, you will need either a tune or some other way to increase fuelling. The stock Triumph TORS tune is too lean on its own. I used a Dobeck and still have the TORS tune and it works fine.

The TORS and filters have now gone and are sitting in my garage. New set-up is definitely better, so I'd view TORS as a more than adequate and very cost effective system for moderate gains and good sound. I was very happy with it and changed it opportunistically rather than due to any performance issue (although I did want better sound).

Thanks for the info! I hear you about upgrading with some pipes different then TORs.
From reading about all the Rocket asseseries, awesome rebuilds and warm weather...makes me consider making a move to As. Wife has a chief nephew who just returned from 4 yrs.

 

[tails]

when my tors and aus decat pipes were fitted, it made an extra 100 bhp at the rear wheel ? an unbelievable difference to performance
they are for sale now if you are interested ?????????

 

[Rocket Scientist]

when my tors and aus decat pipes were fitted, it made an extra 100 bhp at the rear wheel ? an unbelievable difference to performance
they are for sale now if you are interested ?????????

Dude....are ya hittin' the pipe ?