Build Quality

[borntoride63]

That was one of the things that I considered when deciding between a tuneboy and PCIII. I wondered how much/many things the dealer would blame on them when they couldn't figure out what was wrong. The PCIII at least can just be unplugged and everything goes back to factory spec. I agree with you though, I don't see how the tuneboy can cause a miss ... be sure to let us all know what was causing it when they finally iron it out.

dealer called yesterday, it was a bad coil! funny thing is I thought the upgrade kit included new coils? upgrade kit was installed in july, picking up my bike tommorow!

 

[HellFire]

So what DOES an "upgrade kit" involve? I thought they were doing something to the timing chain on earlier models for the noise, are there different upgrades for different years? Mine is an '08 standard so I have yet to receive a post card from the factory gift shop.

 

[borntoride63]

check with pig9r, I think he knows what all is replaced in the upgrade! and what the build date was when bikes starting coming out with all the new parts in! my bike would not shift into second gear! upgrade incuded some new gear sets! now it shifts smooth! but now has some gear lash! ugh! there were some drive shaft parts in the kit too!

 

[dougl]

That was one of the things that I considered when deciding between a tuneboy and PCIII. I wondered how much/many things the dealer would blame on them when they couldn't figure out what was wrong. The PCIII at least can just be unplugged and everything goes back to factory spec. I agree with you though, I don't see how the tuneboy can cause a miss ... be sure to let us all know what was causing it when they finally iron it out.

The dealer wouldn't know you had loaded a tune with Tuneboy unless you told him.

 

[dougl]

If tuneboy is the problem that will be a first, everyone who has tuneboy myself included use it amongst other things to correct triumphs poor(thank you pig9r) maps, cannot only blame triumph the bikes come from the factory so lean to satisfy good old EPA.

I don't think they're too lean. I put in Wayne's tune for TORs/cat bypass, which is fatter in the F tables than stock but aside from the power restriction from closing the secondaries, the power and A/F curves are nearly the same as the stock tune.

I've done a lot of screwing with the L tables and O2 sensor to reduce popping on decel, with some good results. However, I find that the throttle is much smoother at low throttle positions with the stock L tables, O2 sensor connected, in closed loop - but I get more popping.

 

[mrmcgoo]

I have had my Rocket 111 for two years. I have found the build quality to be all over the map. Chrome covered plastic mirrors and rad shroud. Stainless exhaust but no protection from galling on the hardware. At 47000 km blow by and several oil leaks. Valve adjustment once a year. Tire size and consumption. Two drive tires a season at $500 each. They are a bastard size that isn't readily stocked by most bike shops. The performance values of the bike cannot fully be used without changing the dynamics of the bike. Anything over 220 kph and the front end gets light. Having said that it is the most exhilarating bike I have ridden in twenty five years. As someone who uses the motorcycle for its capabilities and not so much as an expensive compensation for something. I am selling mine. I can have the same performance values for considerably less money and maintenance costs. I will consider another one if the build quality gets better.

 

[ksquared]

Just a couple of questions:
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"I have found the build quality to be all over the map."

"Chrome covered plastic mirrors and rad shroud."

"Stainless exhaust but no protection from galling on the hardware."
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Couldn't you see the above things before you bought the bike - when you were first looking at it?

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"At 47000 km blow by and several oil leaks."
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Your experience may not be typical - at 30K miles mins has never leaked a drop of oil, not have I had any issues with blow by.
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"Valve adjustment once a year."
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It's called "maintenance" - didn't you look at the maintenance schedule before you bought the bike? If not - why not?

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"Tire size and consumption. Two drive tires a season at $500 each. They are a bastard size that isn't readily stocked by most bike shops."
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Did you not know what size tires the bike required before you purchased it? Besides, the tires are widely available on the Internet (where I buy all of mine) and can be purchased there for very competitive prices.

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"The performance values of the bike cannot fully be used without changing the dynamics of the bike. Anything over 220 kph and the front end gets light."
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220kph = 136.70mph. This is an 800 lb road bike we're talking about. Did you REALLY believe it was intended to operate all day at 140+ MPH on public roads?

Given all of the above and your obvious lack of pre-purchase research, I can see where you would have disappointed expectations.

For me - and, I believe, most of the others on the forum, your post contains only one universal experience:

"it is the most exhilarating bike I have ridden"

just my $0.02

 

[budman]

I can have the same performance values for considerably less money

where? you can't even get another bike with this much torque.

 

[breeze]

I have had my Rocket 111 for two years. I have found the build quality to be all over the map. Chrome covered plastic mirrors and rad shroud. Stainless exhaust but no protection from galling on the hardware. At 47000 km blow by and several oil leaks. Valve adjustment once a year. Tire size and consumption. Two drive tires a season at $500 each. They are a bastard size that isn't readily stocked by most bike shops. The performance values of the bike cannot fully be used without changing the dynamics of the bike. Anything over 220 kph and the front end gets light. Having said that it is the most exhilarating bike I have ridden in twenty five years. As someone who uses the motorcycle for its capabilities and not so much as an expensive compensation for something. I am selling mine. I can have the same performance values for considerably less money and maintenance costs. I will consider another one if the build quality gets better.

I AM SURE YOU WILL BE MISSED BY ALL HERE (MAYBE NOT) DO YOU INSPECT/CHECK THINGS OUT BEFORE YOU BUY, NO LEAKS OR BLOW BY ON MINE,WHERE DO YOU SPEND THAT MUCH FOR TIRES?,SEEMS TO ME YOU LOCK UP BACK TIRE TO MUCH OR YOU LIKE THE POWER,WE ALL DO CHANGES TO EVERYTHING WE OWN (DID I SAY WE WILL MISS YOU?)

 

[echoraven]

Mine 2011 R3T was purchased in June 2012. I've got probably about 8k miles on it and it's been more reliable than my Bonneville. By this point the Bonnie had 2 oil leaks (under warranty) and the Rocket only had the driving bulbs burn out and replaced under warranty. While I do ride the bike somewhat sanely, I'm always 2up my wife and I are pretty darn heavy and while the bike is only out on weekends, it's ridden for 100+ miles a pop. I've had 2 rear tires replaced due one due to puncture and the other wouldn't hold air, I purchased a tire warranty with the bike so that paid for itself. At this point would not hesitate to buy again, we've done a few longer trips on the bike and I can't imagine riding for 300+ miles on a lesser bike.