Maybe we need to look at this like Triumph does, their not in the business to sell motorcycles, they are just looking for ways to piss Flip off, thats all there is to it. The Vision may have the right stuff, but my guess is it's in the wrong wraper, a lot like the Rune is a great motorcycle, but the styling is too over the top. But like it or not the Vision is Victory's "Flagship" and its a lot harder to put the cat back in the bag after you let it out, we have to live with it.