Replacing rear indicators with LEDs

[R-III-R Turbo]

Do they make such bulbs that will fit in the OEM housing. If so, do I understand correctly that the LED bul(s) would neither require a relay or resistors to work properly?

As you may have surmised, my brain turns into mush when it comes to matters electric.

LEDs would have better conspicuity all day long/in all conditions than standard incandescent filament bulbs, wouldn't they?

LEDs beat the **** out of filament bulbs every day of the week.
They draw less current and give a much cleaner on/off toggle too

They do make Led "bulbs" to replace filament ones, check these out
382 1156 BA15s P21W AMBER 48 LED REAR INDICATOR LIGHT BULBS X2 BRIGHT RI202202

I run similar ones

 

[FunkSoulBro]

Out with the old. In with the new.
Hope this is the right one.

 

[TriumPhil]

Admins: Please make this a sticky thread!

 

[DEcosse]

INDICATOR LED BULB IN-LINE CANBUS LOAD RESISTOR WARNING CANCELLERS WIRE

Don't care what that says, they are just as wrong as you

Since you are holding them up as an authoritative reference, just to help illustrate how clueless that seller is:

Q Why do I need load resistors with LED bulbs
A Unlike conventional bulbs LED bulbs have a lower resistance and the canbus system on your vehicle can be fooled into thinking there is a bulb failure. Fitting in-line load resistors will stop this problem.

Q Why are my LED indicator bulbs flashing too fast
A Unlike conventional bulbs LED bulbs have less resistance and the canbus system on your vehicle can be fooled into thinking there is a bulb failure. Fitting in-line load resistors will make the LED bubs flash at the same speed as standard bulbs.

Completely Wrong.
LED bulbs have HIGHER resistance than incandescent - the LEDs draw LESS current than an incandescent

Maybe you can explain how an in-line resistor will satisfy the requirement of equaling the original load?
1. What is the current supplied to two 10W incandescent bulbs? (i.e. one side, front & rear)
2. What is the current supplied to two LED bulbs?
3. What is the total current supplied to two LEDs with a resistor (8 ohms) in parallel? (hint - this answer will be the ~ same as #1)
4. What is the total current supplied to an LED with a resistor in series (in-line) - you can pick ANY resistor you want for this! (Hint - the current for 4 will be even LESS than the current for 2, regardless of what value you pick)

Me EE - you?

 

[DEcosse]

.. Hope this is the right one.

Yes, that should do it - same pin convention as the OEM.

 

[R-III-R Turbo]

Don't care what that says, they are just as wrong as you

Since you are holding them up as an authoritative reference, just to help illustrate how clueless that seller is:



Completely Wrong.
LED bulbs have HIGHER resistance than incandescent - the LEDs draw LESS current than an incandescent

Maybe you can explain how an in-line resistor will satisfy the requirement of equaling the original load?
1. What is the current supplied to two 10W incandescent bulbs? (i.e. one side, front & rear)
2. What is the current supplied to two LED bulbs?
3. What is the total current supplied to two LEDs with a resistor (8 ohms) in parallel? (hint - this answer will be the ~ same as #1)
4. What is the total current supplied to an LED with a resistor in series (in-line) - you can pick ANY resistor you want for this! (Hint - the current for 4 will be even LESS than the current for 2, regardless of what value you pick)

Me EE - you?

dude put down the textbook and try it in real life. what i will give you, is that they will work better in parallel than series

yours sincerely,
M&EE (that means my *****is bigger than yours)

 

[FunkSoulBro]

Yes, that should do it - same pin convention as the OEM.

Installed the new relay. Havent got the LEDs yet (waiting delivery) and the incandescents are blinking as normal. Much better solution to ditch the resistors and best of all its plug n play.
Thanks again for the guidance.

 

[DEcosse]

dude put down the textbook and try it in real life.

You obviously have not tried it 'in real life' or you would KNOW it would not work - you cannot prove it whether empirically (that means 'trying it so you don't have to look it up) or theoretically.

what i will give you, is that they will work better in parallel than series

Yes they will work 'better' in parallel because in series they will not make any difference at all

Isn't it just so predictable that when someone cannot prove their erroneous statement that they revert to name-calling?

 

[R-III-R Turbo]

Installed the new relay. Havent got the LEDs yet (waiting delivery) and the incandescents are blinking as normal. Much better solution to ditch the resistors and best of all its plug n play.
Thanks again for the guidance.

No probs glad its working for u

 

[R-III-R Turbo]

empirically (that means 'trying it so you don't have to look it up) or theoretically.

Meee-yow!!