Mark Dunn
.060 Over
Thanks sleeves,
When you say "eats fuel", what's your typical MPG? I presume you have Imperial gallons in New Zealand. Also, are you an 'aggressive' rider?
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
Thanks sleeves,
When you say "eats fuel", what's your typical MPG? I presume you have Imperial gallons in New Zealand. Also, are you an 'aggressive' rider?
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
sleeves
Nitrous
Hi Mark The fuel light comes on from a full tank after 160km (99 miles) I ride with quite a few different bikes and my "outlaws" who are all Honda riders laugh at my lousy mileage. However when with other R3's I seem to be down a litre or so for the same distance, they are all in various different states of tune also though so hard to judge. Think the tank level light is a bit random on these bikes anyway.
The economy was never a consideration for this purchase and I dont really care about the economy the grin factor more than covers the fuel use.
Most of my riding is long runs but I do like to twist the throttle a bit. At idle when I give it a rev it throws out a bit of unburnt fuel too. At present am fitting up a PCV and autotune system that will change things again.
Hope this helps
Mark Dunn
.060 Over
Thanks for the info, sleeves,
I can see a lot of experimenting will be required after I fit the D&Ds. I'm lookijng forward to it.
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
Make sure you ask @HansO for a tune, both for the TuneECU and the PCV/AT. You will be happy with the results.
sleeves
Nitrous
Mittzy
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That is terrible economy.... I get 300-330klm/ Tank on the open road and about 200klm/Tank if I am having some fun.
Mark Dunn
.060 Over
Yes,I thought I might start getting some popping. My cunning plan is to go with a RamAir filter and either PCV+AT or Dobeck Gen4+AFR later this year.
Thanks for the info.
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
sleeves
Nitrous
Yes Mittzy I have concerns on the fuel light thing as sometimes its 150km, as i said mine a bit worse than my mates standard R3, before I started fiddling it was about 200km before light came on. I am never brave enough to run it dry to see how far it will actually go and when the light comes on I just start obsessing with it (one of my many mental disorders
). Also if you run out of gas you get the "wanker" T shirt that's yours until someone else runs out...
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For comparative purposes:
Stock I got about 180 us miles from a tank, putting around 5us gallons in at the pump to refil.
With my Domination tune I got around 150-160 miles a tank.
After going CES exhaust I get between 130-140 miles before a refil.
All my tune are on the richer side compared to stock, so to get under 100 miles a tank either you're ridding hard a he'll all the time, your tune is obscenely rich or a combination of the two.
As far a copying the tables for ignition over, you can do it without incident, many people have already.
Regarding the TOR tune not using much extra fuel, where you fire off the spark plug (ignition advance) has an effect on the measured AFR using a gas analyzer, and it's almost certainly the stock tune is designed to feed close to 14.7 ratio out the head so the cats work properly. With the TOR tune, Triumph would not have been concerned with the cats, and would have adjusted timing based on best power not best emissions. Also consider that best power is made across a range of afrs, not necessarily at a specific ration, particularly in low compression motors, and their tune makes sense as a "more fun but still gets descent mileage" tune.
Right off the bat, I'd wager that PowerTripp's R3T_Slip tune will work really well with a D&D bike assuming it still uses the stock header.
Stock I got about 180 us miles from a tank, putting around 5us gallons in at the pump to refil.
With my Domination tune I got around 150-160 miles a tank.
After going CES exhaust I get between 130-140 miles before a refil.
All my tune are on the richer side compared to stock, so to get under 100 miles a tank either you're ridding hard a he'll all the time, your tune is obscenely rich or a combination of the two.
As far a copying the tables for ignition over, you can do it without incident, many people have already.
Regarding the TOR tune not using much extra fuel, where you fire off the spark plug (ignition advance) has an effect on the measured AFR using a gas analyzer, and it's almost certainly the stock tune is designed to feed close to 14.7 ratio out the head so the cats work properly. With the TOR tune, Triumph would not have been concerned with the cats, and would have adjusted timing based on best power not best emissions. Also consider that best power is made across a range of afrs, not necessarily at a specific ration, particularly in low compression motors, and their tune makes sense as a "more fun but still gets descent mileage" tune.
Right off the bat, I'd wager that PowerTripp's R3T_Slip tune will work really well with a D&D bike assuming it still uses the stock header.
Mark Dunn
.060 Over
Hi Claviger's,
Thanks for the information. Yes, I'm hoping the Tripp tune will work well with the D&Ds. Once I've got used to the new exhaust I'll copy the timing from Triumph's TORS tune over to the Tripp map and see if it's any better or worse.
I looked at trying to graft your Dominator tune into an earlier base map but that looks like an awful lot of numbers to copy.
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
Thanks for the information. Yes, I'm hoping the Tripp tune will work well with the D&Ds. Once I've got used to the new exhaust I'll copy the timing from Triumph's TORS tune over to the Tripp map and see if it's any better or worse.
I looked at trying to graft your Dominator tune into an earlier base map but that looks like an awful lot of numbers to copy.
Best regards,
Mark Dunn
