Engine Vibration continues

[TURBO200R4]

Warp i did not have power loss and i think if there was any one with power loss it would not be related to the vibration.
1961 through 1964 olds had them damper asys on the flywheel to transmit power to the transmission and we always had to replace them because they would wear out. so i was thinking that might be the problem.
i guess the only way we will know for sure is to have some one that is really good to go after that problem. having a dial indicator to do run out on the basket,and see what happens when you start to apply the clutch.
if i ever go after mine i am going to try to start it with the cover off may be all that will happen is i get drowned with oil.

 

[albertaduke]

If my 06 had a vibration I must admit I do not notice it. Of course I have since modified the clutch so enough to say I cannot count mine. I do run the larger lifter piece, a MTC clutch basket because my original was suffering from excessive torque applications. You could see the plates in the back of the clutch where the anti backlash springs were seating suffering from being hammered so many times. It never failed but then I replaced it ahead of time. My detonated internal clutch hub happened when I had the Billet forged clutch basket which did not even get a scratch when the internal hub grenaded. Personally I think this vibration you guys are talking about coupled by a loss of power is not the clutch lifter piece and I am doubting whether it is the clutch basket especially when you throw in the loss of power. But then I am no Triumph Technician.

no you may not be a triumph tech but it would be nice if the triumph tech at my local place and some others bike places I know, had your knowledge and insight regarding R3

 

[IMFASTTOO]

i find it hard to believe that little piece of metal (lifter) no matter how loose it was could make that motor unbalanced. and by your theory when you engage it it straightens it up and runs smooth? for test purposes if that was the problem you could leave it out and start it in neutral to see if the vibration was gone. my theory is when the lifter is pulled slightly that it moves the part that is vibrating more towards center and then it runs smooth.
Warp thanks for the time and info you have given it would be so nice if some one could come up with the way to make them run smooth.
when i bought mine (07 classic) with 6000 miles i could feel vib. @ 3000 rpm at 25000 miles it is a little worse and it worried me when i am over 100 mph.

ITS the lifter causing the vibes

 

[TURBO200R4]

ITS the lifter causing the vibes

then changing the lifter will correct the problem?
whats wrong with the lifter to cause the vibs.
have you been into yours and found the lifter bad and then repaired?

edit
i have not been into mine to examine it
my opinions is based on 54 years of experience.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

then changing the lifter will correct the problem?
whats wrong with the lifter to cause the vibs.
have you been into yours and found the lifter bad and then repaired?

edit
i have not been into mine to examine it
my opinions is based on 54 years of experience.

YES it could be corrected and I think its just that simple that we should be able to solve the problem In fact both my bikes have the same vibration that stops when the free play is taken up I have an 09 classic wih 17000 miles and the 2012 Roadster with 8800 miles and both bikes act the same and there is no lifter damage and every Rocket Ive tested has the same vibes

 

[IMFASTTOO]

I had a vibration in my 07 classic at 3500 miles i took it to the dealer and they said they replaced the clutch springs with heavier springs, but who knows, anyway they fixed the vibration, I put 20000 miles on the bike and it came back, took to them again hoping they could fix it, they took the clutch apart and said they couldn't find anything, didn't fix it, I even talk to Pete at Triumph, he said "it's the nature of the beast, ride it " I said bull$^%# it wasn't like that before. Mine does the same, and a lot of others do. take the free play out of the clutch lever and it's gone.

YES they all have it and like you say take the free play out and its gone

 

[warp9.9]

Warp i did not have power loss and i think if there was any one with power loss it would not be related to the vibration.
1961 through 1964 olds had them damper asys on the flywheel to transmit power to the transmission and we always had to replace them because they would wear out. so i was thinking that might be the problem.
i guess the only way we will know for sure is to have some one that is really good to go after that problem. having a dial indicator to do run out on the basket,and see what happens when you start to apply the clutch.
if i ever go after mine i am going to try to start it with the cover off may be all that will happen is i get drowned with oil.

Checking run out on the clutch basket is no problem but checking it while pulling on the lifter piece will be a problem since you have to have the front cover off. Now if I had a shop I would machine inspection ports in one of my extra cover so I could do some checking while fully assembled. When I replaced my transmission input shaft I did check run out on the MTC basket but found it to run true. Of course they do pride themselves in their workmanship and its not a assembly line. If yours has the original lifter piece in it I do think you would like the newer style as the head is larger in diameter which stops some of the run out where it site in the lifter shaft. Personally I do not nor never noticed this vibration you are talking about but then I might have missed it as I only run the complete OEM stuff until 20,000 miles. After that I was bitten by the HP bug

 

[Rocket Scientist]

when i bought mine (07 classic) with 6000 miles i could feel vib. @ 3000 rpm at 25000 miles it is a little worse and it worried me when i am over 100 mph.

My 05' also has a "harmonic" around 3,000 rpm. I'm at 54,000 miles now and it hasn't gotten any worse. I had read somewhere that when they were designing the R3, they had the ability to remove all vibration, but their focus groups wanted a bit so it felt like a motorcycle. The vibes mine produces don't bother me at all. [DISCLAIMER] My previous ride of 20 years was a 69' solid mounted shovel head. It's possible all my vibration sensing nerves are dead

 

[IMFASTTOO]

Checking run out on the clutch basket is no problem but checking it while pulling on the lifter piece will be a problem since you have to have the front cover off. Now if I had a shop I would machine inspection ports in one of my extra cover so I could do some checking while fully assembled. When I replaced my transmission input shaft I did check run out on the MTC basket but found it to run true. Of course they do pride themselves in their workmanship and its not a assembly line. If yours has the original lifter piece in it I do think you would like the newer style as the head is larger in diameter which stops some of the run out where it site in the lifter shaft. Personally I do not nor never noticed this vibration you are talking about but then I might have missed it as I only run the complete OEM stuff until 20,000 miles. After that I was bitten by the HP bug

ALL the Rockets have the vibes so its not defective parts and since it stops when you pull in the cluch lever and remove the free play in the clutch cable lets see what we can do to solve the problem

 

[albertaduke]

ALL the Rockets have the vibes so its not defective parts and since it stops when you pull in the cluch lever and remove the free play in the clutch cable lets see what we can do to solve the problem

this talk is too deep for me but after reading I took my JD for a ride and tried to find this vibration I also pulled clutch in and out on neutral and in gear to feel this vibration but zip!! is it that in 2006 output shaft bearings were baaad and clutch lifter good?