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Sorry, I don´t agree.
The slightly richer cells at cruising speeds will smooth out throttle reactions, cause less heat, and even reduce fuel consumption as the combustion is more efficient than at lambda1 (afr 14,5).
In fact I played it safe and there are gains with an otimized (leaner) fuel at WOT and high revs. But it is at best 5hp with a stock bike and in most cases even a little less.
It will only be more if you remove the speed cutter and compare it to a restricted bike in the upper gears. (I agreed with Alain to keep the speed cutter active in my public maps. But everybody with a common licence can pay him some extra bucks to have it removed.)
Prost
Ulf
Hello
Sorry, I don´t agree.
The slightly richer cells at cruising speeds will smooth out throttle reactions, cause less heat, and even reduce fuel consumption as the combustion is more efficient than at lambda1 (afr 14,5).
In fact I played it safe and there are gains with an otimized (leaner) fuel at WOT and high revs. But it is at best 5hp with a stock bike and in most cases even a little less.
It will only be more if you remove the speed cutter and compare it to a restricted bike in the upper gears. (I agreed with Alain to keep the speed cutter active in my public maps. But everybody with a common licence can pay him some extra bucks to have it removed.)
Prost
Ulf
Hello, last year we started going to a 1/8 mile drag strip and my ‘22GT was going around 100mph at the end. It never got into 5th-6th gear but my question is, if I went to a longer 1/4 mile track where I would probably use the higher gears would the unrestricted/speed cutter map be faster even though I wouldn’t be in the 140’smph? I hope this isn’t a stupid question but I don’t know if it has a hard “governor” @ 147mph or if that is done by the fueling. Thanks!
 
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Hello, last year we started going to a 1/8 mile drag strip and my ‘22GT was going around 100mph at the end. It never got into 5th-6th gear but my question is, if I went to a longer 1/4 mile track where I would probably use the higher gears would the unrestricted/speed cutter map be faster even though I wouldn’t be in the 140’smph? I hope this isn’t a stupid question but I don’t know if it has a hard “governor” @ 147mph or if that is done by the fueling. ThanksIf you don,t hit the limiter it will mak no differnece.

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Hello, last year we started going to a 1/8 mile drag strip and my ‘22GT was going around 100mph at the end. It never got into 5th-6th gear but my question is, if I went to a longer 1/4 mile track where I would probably use the higher gears would the unrestricted/speed cutter map be faster even though I wouldn’t be in the 140’smph? I hope this isn’t a stupid question but I don’t know if it has a hard “governor” @ 147mph or if that is done by the fueling. Thanks!
If you don´t hit the speed limiter, it will make no difference. But at the quarter mile you might get close.
 
Newbie here but want to upload the maps from my bike so I can see the values etc using TuneECU but.... Bluetooth adaptor doesn't even give me the option and with a cable the upload is greyed out... Any ideas

Rocket Storm...
First, you can't read the existing map from your bike using TuneECU and the BT adapter. The TuneECU website does have stock maps, but not for the Storm yet.
Second, you can't use a cable connection with any of the new Rockets and TuneECU.
 
I have a 2020 Rocket 3 GT, and I've installed a DNA air filter and a Vandemon exhaust.

I want to do a remapping with TuneEcu but I can't find any map for this exhaust, which has no catalytic converter, or one that accounts for the changed air filter.

Is there a guide to adapt these maps to take advantage of these changes? Or if someone has a link to a map that's suitable for these modifications... ;)
Thanks a lot!
 
I am a little worried after reading the word obsolete. Can someone confirm if this is an issue?

This is what i have done.
Downloaded All Markets Rocket R No Restrictions 31018Map.hex to my phone from Tune ECU
Connected via BT OBD2
Reprogrammed using the above map and TuneECU app
Let bike run without touching the throttle for 15 mins

After doing all this, when I checked map info, it said current version is obsolete, should I be worried?
I did more that 100km after remap without any issues

It says
Map : 31018_02*
*Obsolete, replaced by version 03

Do I need to update it to version 03, where to find it from?
 
I am a little worried after reading the word obsolete. Can someone confirm if this is an issue?

This is what i have done.
Downloaded All Markets Rocket R No Restrictions 31018Map.hex to my phone from Tune ECU
Connected via BT OBD2
Reprogrammed using the above map and TuneECU app
Let bike run without touching the throttle for 15 mins

After doing all this, when I checked map info, it said current version is obsolete, should I be worried?
I did more that 100km after remap without any issues

It says
Map : 31018_02*
*Obsolete, replaced by version 03

Do I need to update it to version 03, where to find it from?
You don’t need to update anything.
 
I am a little worried after reading the word obsolete. Can someone confirm if this is an issue?

This is what i have done.
Downloaded All Markets Rocket R No Restrictions 31018Map.hex to my phone from Tune ECU
Connected via BT OBD2
Reprogrammed using the above map and TuneECU app
Let bike run without touching the throttle for 15 mins

After doing all this, when I checked map info, it said current version is obsolete, should I be worried?
I did more that 100km after remap without any issues

It says
Map : 31018_02*
*Obsolete, replaced by version 03

Do I need to update it to version 03, where to find it from?
No you don't need to. You might want to at some point. I had this kind of up-date for my Tiger 900 GT. The new version was on the TuneECU App tune lists. Look for yours.
 
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Just finished reading the whole thread. Can anyone describe how the Penner map compares to stock in throttle response and heat at lower speeds (city riding)? If it uses afr numbers outside the narrow band sensor range, does it use volumetric efficiency numbers learned from prior riding or ones coded elsewhere in the tune map tables? If the latter, then presumably adaptations will no longer evolve as there’s no more o2 sensor feedback. So if I’m in a very different climate to Penner, could that not result in over rich/over lean fuelling in open loop?
 
Just finished reading the whole thread. Can anyone describe how the Penner map compares to stock in throttle response and heat at lower speeds (city riding)? If it uses afr numbers outside the narrow band sensor range, does it use volumetric efficiency numbers learned from prior riding or ones coded elsewhere in the tune map tables? If the latter, then presumably adaptations will no longer evolve as there’s no more o2 sensor feedback. So if I’m in a very different climate to Penner, could that not result in over rich/over lean fuelling in open loop?
Throttle sensitivity, controlled by the ETV tables, is derestricted at the top end but unchanged at low throttle/rpm. Fuel is enriched in the mid range and slightly leaned out at the top end. The O2 sensor remains enabled. It’s unlikely to be lean no matter where you live. For a free tune, you’re getting a crapload more high end power.
 
Don’t know if anyone has talked about this but Tuneecu now displays the Torque Limit table, which presumably can restrict power. I recall a post by a dyno tuner who observed that the throttle plates were partially closed at WOT even with the ETV values set to 100%. Seems like the Torque Limit table is responsible. How about raising these values, at least at WOT and see if the throttle plates open all the way and max hp increases?
 
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