Err ok.., rest my case. 47 columns of 21 and a column of 13 ....

I erred in assuming 20 per column.
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Just a thought from the bottom of the world any chance your sheep skin is caught in the latch mechanism?

So it might not be the combination being wrong at all.

Put in the number you have and put some pressure on the latch.
 
Just a thought from the bottom of the world any chance your sheep skin is caught in the latch mechanism?

So it might not be the combination being wrong at all.

Put in the number you have and put some pressure on the latch.

quite right mr Phar2slo!!...
...and i could open it three numbers!!...one, two, THREE!!...SMACKAROO!...BIG F**KIN HAMMER!!
 
As you cannot repeat the numbers it is a permutation (not a combination) for the sake of calculating the number of possible outcomes.

The total number is 10! / (10 - 3)!, in English Ten Factorial divided by the Factorial of ten (number of available digits) minus three (number of times the digit is used).

or 10! / 7! = 3,628,800 / 5,040 = 720
Johnny come lately here, Spot on brother; except he is not looking for permutations. If so, then you are absolutely correct. This is a problem I run into at work from time to time. In T&E we must figure the total possible combinations in order to determine the number of test we need to run to figure the probability of an occurrence happening. One of my former supervisors was adamant about doing calculations and Modeling and Simulations vice doing actual operational testing. Those parts of testing are important to saving time and money but real world operational testing is the only way I can give my commander a fielding recommendation.
Math is awesome as long as we use the correct formula and input the right variables.
@1olbull This is one of the reasons I like to read your explanations of mishap investigations. Math!
 
when i was young those locks with the face dials i would put some pressure on them and rotate and u could fell the numbers. also after the first two numbers u simply held pressure and rotated the dial so all u needed was the first two numbers correct. that cut your combinations a lot.
 
when i was young those locks with the face dials i would put some pressure on them and rotate and u could fell the numbers. also after the first two numbers u simply held pressure and rotated the dial so all u needed was the first two numbers correct. that cut your combinations a lot.
Here's an update on my pannier problem. My dealer pointed out that to replace my bad pannier they would have to re key the bike because the lock mechanism can't be changed on the pannier.!! No thanks I said and started watching U tube videos on these locks. Bottom line is these locks are junk, easily defeated and very unreliable. My other pannier lock now resets the combination if i turn one of the dials to a new number every time I turn it. So if my opening combo is 123, I change the 1 to a 9 and now it won't open with 123, it might open with 223, or 923, I took the other lock apart once I picked the lock and removed it from the bag. and I believe the problem is with the design of the discs themselves. They are spring loaded to a slotted wheel underneath each disc and this allows them to be reset when you are picking your code and then they are supposed to stay together when you want to lock or unlock them. Problem is they sometimes stay together and sometimes move independently. I'll be working on the one again today to see if I can convince it to behave. I had my dealer tell Triumph I am very displeased with such a cheap lock on a rather expensive bike. So don't lock anything in your bags until you make sure the lock works repeatedly!!!! Still love the bike, makes me laugh every time I ride.
 
I have a set of big 43 liter Givi hard side cases with the 3 digit spin lock.
They were great until they started behaving like yours.
Sitting on the shelf now. I don't have to heart to sell them as is, or trash them either.
 
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