Rocket Down

[barbagris]

Triumph (Knox brand?) back protector -

Dainese back plate.

 

[laraza]

Triumph (or any other brand) Mesh fabric Jacket - fail but at least the structure held together to hold the back protector in place
Triumph (Knox brand?) back protector -

Dainese hard back protector, the Triumph armour in the shoulders and elbows worked well too, the jacket not so much!

 

[laraza]

The back protector looks aftermarket. The ones in my jackets are made of soft foams. Yours looks like made of a hard plastic.

After this experience I would definitely recommend to anybody that they bin any soft protectors and replace with hard soon as possible. I know a foam back protector would have been next to useless.

 

[Ishrub]

After this experience I would definitely recommend to anybody that they bin any soft protectors and replace with hard soon as possible. I know a foam back protector would have been next to useless.

Unless it was D30 or similar super materials.

 

[laraza]

Unless it was D30 or similar super materials.

If it's all the same, I'll let someone else test those

 

[Boog]

@laraza Glad you are okay brother. I hope the recovery goes well. Some of the bumps may not look like much on the outside but linger long on the inside.

 

[BillyIndiana]

And I was feeling so good about my Joe Rocket mesh jacket. Now I have to pull all the protectors out and see if upgrades are needed.

 

[barbagris]

Hard plates are well useful in thinner fabric gear. They are made for sliding.
But soft pads (like airbags) are there to absorb bumps. Most hard plate has a soft lining layer.

Rather than have me question the pad - It has me question the basic principle of mesh (and I own a mesh Jacket). And I have been doing so since I first saw that jacket of Frank's.

If I am honest - I have not been that impressed with Triumph gear in general. It's why I have none except some gloves which were a present. The stiching went on one pair. The others I use more for garden work.

I even start to self-question my use of fabric gear in general up to a point - unless it 100% Kevlar lined and stitched.
I'd rather sweat a little than shred a little.

Under GOOD Leather is hard shell really necessary for road use? - and I say this knowing my Vanson has their hard plate back pad in.
On the track maybe. On the road it can't hurt. But necessary?.

Still amazes the F*CK out of me that there are loads of jackets sold with no back protection at all.

 

[barbagris]

If it's all the same, I'll let someone else test those

That'll teach you to volunteer.

 

[BillyIndiana]

Hard plates are well useful in thinner fabric gear. They are made for sliding.
But soft pads (like airbags) are there to absorb bumps. Most hard plate has a soft lining layer.

Rather than have me question the pad - It has me question the basic principle of mesh (and I own a mesh Jacket). And I have been doing so since I first saw that jacket of Frank's.

If I am honest - I have not been that impressed with Triumph gear in general. It's why I have none except some gloves which were a present. The stiching went on one pair. The others I use more for garden work.

I even start to self-question my use of fabric gear in general up to a point - unless it 100% Kevlar lined and stitched.
I'd rather sweat a little than shred a little.

Under GOOD Leather is hard shell really necessary for road use? - and I say this knowing my Vanson has their hard plate back pad in.
On the track maybe. On the road it can't hurt. But necessary?.

Still amazes the F*CK out of me that there are loads of jackets sold with no back protection at all.

I have both leather and mesh with pads. It appears to me the mesh jacket did it's job in this case. I would not expect any mesh to survive after doing its job at those speeds. It is amazing sometimes the things we take for granted. All I can say is it will make me examine and maybe upgrade some of my gear. I love the mesh in hot weather just as I choose to wear a modular instead of a full face. We all know the trade off for comfort, but with the high tech stuff today it is great to have options.