Hear what you are all saying .. like I stated good old cow hide would do me for a bike seat .. understand that poaching wild animals will continue while ever there's a buck to be made. Just won't be my bucks that's continuing the trade .. done a bit of hunting and shooting myself , not really the hunting and killing that's the point .. guess elephants and a lot of other creatures just strike a chord with some people ... and i'm one of them people.
 
In Africa, in several different countries, elephant hunting is legal and when the situation warrants it, a culling of the elephant herds happens pretty often. Some of the herds had grown so huge that the damage they were doing to crops, equipment, denuding of branches off of trees was the result of over population and sanctioned hunts are held when they are warranted.

The poachers usually go after the ivory and ivory only because of the demand for it in countries where it is not illegal to import it (it maybe should be but it isn't). What is particularly galling about the poachers in the ivory business is that once the tusks are out they leave the rest of the elephant to rot.

Where elephant hunting is "legal" most of the elephant is used as far as the hide, ears and meat goes. The availability or the limits placed on the cullings determine whether there is cheap meat (for instance) or expensive meat in restaurants (I have had elephant "steaks" in Matadi, Zaire and Mombasa, Kenya).

An elephant hide may not be what I would particularly choose for a seat cover but if it is a legal hide I don't see where the problem is. I doubt you will see widespread use of it as a seat material because it is probably very expensive.

Not sure why this got some people's dandruff up as if it is an animal hide you are so against being used you better look at a lot of your clothes, shoe/boot wear, gloves, jackets, seats, upholstery and so on, I apologize somewhat to Canberra for this "heartless" attitude on my part but if it is legal and not illegal...I have no problem with it.

Dennis
 
In Africa, in several different countries, elephant hunting is legal and when the situation warrants it, a culling of the elephant herds happens pretty often. Some of the herds had grown so huge that the damage they were doing to crops, equipment, denuding of branches off of trees was the result of over population and sanctioned hunts are held when they are warranted.

The poachers usually go after the ivory and ivory only because of the demand for it in countries where it is not illegal to import it (it maybe should be but it isn't). What is particularly galling about the poachers in the ivory business is that once the tusks are out they leave the rest of the elephant to rot.

Where elephant hunting is "legal" most of the elephant is used as far as the hide, ears and meat goes. The availability or the limits placed on the cullings determine whether there is cheap meat (for instance) or expensive meat in restaurants (I have had elephant "steaks" in Matadi, Zaire and Mombasa, Kenya).

An elephant hide may not be what I would particularly choose for a seat cover but if it is a legal hide I don't see where the problem is. I doubt you will see widespread use of it as a seat material because it is probably very expensive.

Not sure why this got some people's dandruff up as if it is an animal hide you are so against being used you better look at a lot of your clothes, shoe/boot wear, gloves, jackets, seats, upholstery and so on, I apologize somewhat to Canberra for this "heartless" attitude on my part but if it is legal and not illegal...I have no problem with it.

Dennis
Thanks for the Factual and Enlightening Information Dennis, I had no doubt there would be an explanation.
As While I Love All Animals and could never hunt or bring myself to shoot one I am realistic enough to know that there a legitimate reasons for the skins availabilities it is real not that much different to the Kangaroo skin trade, I remember a few years ago there was a scare campaign started by an animal liberationist stating that our Kangaroos were going to become extinct because of the culling! ... need less to say it was Bullsit
 
As I said, it requires the capacity for a small amount of sophistication in your thinking. The old "the elephant's dead anyway", "me hunter, me kill" and "it's the same as kangaroo culling" are simpistic and all completely miss the point. QED I quess. Never mind. Enjoy your seat, I'm sure it's very comfortable. It sure looks nice.
 
It's just idiotic to even compare the situation of kangaroos and elephants .. you seriously can't believe what you are saying can you.
 
As I said, it requires the capacity for a small amount of sophistication in your thinking. The old "the elephant's dead anyway", "me hunter, me kill" and "it's the same as kangaroo culling" are simpistic and all completely miss the point. QED I quess. Never mind. Enjoy your seat, I'm sure it's very comfortable. It sure looks nice.

Well said...it does require a certain amount of sophistication in your thinking which necessarily means that there is always more than one way to view any issue and I doubt we would be able to resolve the issue here as we all tend to take a position and present only the side that comes to mind while we are typing a particular post. Always best to remember that we are all friends with different perspectives, experiences and social exposure to different issues who primarily gather here to talk about Rockets, and no matter how righteous any one particular post may be it may not necessarily translate well in a forum posting. There...I've now used up my big word allotment for the month. Can we get back to talking about saddles now? I do much better with smaller words
 
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Here you go TC, at least 100 cow seats for free .yep bullbars rooted
 
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