Central Sump Bolt Oil Leak

Triumph says to use new sump screen bolts. I use the old ones plus some medium grade thread locker.

You beat to me to it! I was just reviewing the service manual and was about to ask. Since replacing the gasket is "doing it right", I was hesitant to cut corners when they specifically call for new bolts.
 
Work in progress. So far so good. Thanks @warp9.9 for encouraging me to pull the sump. I'm really glad I did. It's good to clean things out and just learn more about what's in there.

It came down pretty easy and after pouring off some of the extra oil, I wiped out most of the rest along with a bunch of gunk. I'm planning to spray it with brake cleaner to finish cleaning, but come to think of it, I have a steam cleaner I'm always looking for excuses to use, so we'll see. Mostly I just want to be sure the machined surfaces are good and clean for the new gasket. Am I too concerned about that, or is it important?

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I know it's common, but hate seeing these parts in the screens… recognize anything I should be concerned about?
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And finally, for good measure, thought I'd share my obsession with organizing hardware and making sure it goes back where it came from. If nothing else it helped me keep track of counting how many bolts I'd already removed and where the remaining ones were.

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So that's where it's at! I'm looking forward to getting things finished up this evening. I have a proper (small) oil filter wrench coming tomorrow to remove the old stuck filter. Then hopefully can get it all together and with any luck, get it running tomorrow.
 
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Work in progress. So far so good. Thanks Warp for encouraging me to pull the sump. I'm really glad I did. It's good to clean things out and just learn more about what's in there.

It came down pretty easy and after pouring off some of the extra oil, I wiped out most of the rest along with a bunch of gunk. I'm planning to spray it with brake cleaner to finish cleaning, but come to think of it, I have a steam cleaner I'm always looking for excuses to use, so we'll see. Mostly I just want to be sure the machined surfaces are good and clean for the new gasket. Am I too concerned about that, or is it important?


I know it's common, but hate seeing these parts in the screens… recognize anything I should be concerned about?


And finally, for good measure, thought I'd share my obsession with organizing hardware and making sure it goes back where it came from. If nothing else it helped me keep track of counting how many bolts I'd already removed and where the remaining ones were.


So that's where it's at! I'm looking forward to getting things finished up this evening. I have a proper (small) oil filter wrench coming tomorrow to remove the old stuck filter. Then hopefully can get it all together and with any luck, get it running tomorrow.

A handy tip is to use a cereal box to hold the bolts. Simply set them into the cardboard in the order and shape they are in on the bike. This works for all types of stuff like engine covers etc. and they don't roll away, get lost or mixed up. Really handy if the bolts are of various lengths too. After the cereal (or beer) box can go back in the recycling bin.,
 
Forgot to ask… Why was the leaking bolt the only one with a copper washer? Is that how it's supposed to be? The bolt is identical to 19 others. None of them have washers. So is this one different, or did the previous owner try and fix the leak by adding a washer?

At this point, it looks like the washer isn't in the service manual, or in online parts diagrams. So I'm planning to leave it off unless someone can tell me otherwise.
 
Not that I've noticed, but I haven't inspected them as closely. I'll see when I'm out there tomorrow.

The inside of the sump cleaned up in just a couple minutes. The oil/crud mix caking the entire bottom is another story. It's still much easier than trying to clean it on the bike, so it if ends up delaying me an extra day, so be it.
 
Use Hylomar Blue on the gasket.
I haven't tried the spray can yet, and it seems it would be a lot easier to apply, both sides.
As Warp has mentioned in many posts, Hylomar make the gasket reusable; it stays gummy and gives a great seal.
 
A tip to make refitting the sump easier for me was to get some longer bolts (think I used 6) phpThumb_generated_thumbnail.jpeg and cut the heads off .Screw them in finger tight then slide the sump on to them to locate the gasket and sump in place in place,then replaced the original bolts and before tightening unscrew your longer bolts and replace with your last original bolts. Then torque everything up. Worked great for me.:cool:
 
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