Alternatives to Triumph Diagnostic tool T3880250

[Rick Morris]

You dont need to bleed the calipers when replacing pads. Just compress the calipers to install the new pads.

 

[ZoneIII]

I always bleed brakes when I replace pads simply because it's probably due when the pads wear out. I might as well do it while I'm replacing the pads rather than making a 2nd job of it. As I'm sure you know, brake fluid, in general, should be replaced every two years. I confess that I don't always do it but I do replace the fluid whenever I do a brake job. It's cheap and easy and I see no reason not to.

You dont need to bleed the calipers when replacing pads. Just compress the calipers to install the new pads.

 

[ZoneIII]

Thanks for that info. I do remember reading something about that when I browsed the service manual. After reading your post, I did a quick check and it appears there is another program you can use to bleed your ABS system. Here's a link that desribes the procedure. The link to the software is invalid but a search for it takes you to the website where you can buy it. It's not free but it's not crazy expensive. The article is about other Triumph models but I would be surprised if it didn't work with R3. Maybe someone here has used this and can tell us how it worked.

ABS Brake System Bleed Procedure - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums

And here's a link to DealerTool: DealerTool diagnostic access to your ECU, for Triumph, Keihin and Sagem ECUs. Dealer Tool OBD and diagnostic interface for Daytona, 675, sprint, speed triple, bonneville, tiger, Rocket3, Rocket

FYI you can't bleed your abs brakes with tune ecu, need the dealer tool, I don't think anyone has figured another alternative out yet.

 

[hoopla]

I thought I read that tune ecu had lost out to pcv for various reasons, rev limited? I don't really know much about this end of the electronics yet but want to learn. What are the main differences between the 2 types, tune ecu vs pcv?

Thanks

Hoopla

 

[warp9.9]

Thanks for that info. I do remember reading something about that when I browsed the service manual. After reading your post, I did a quick check and it appears there is another program you can use to bleed your ABS system. Here's a link that desribes the procedure. The link to the software is invalid but a search for it takes you to the website where you can buy it. It's not free but it's not crazy expensive. The article is about other Triumph models but I would be surprised if it didn't work with R3. Maybe someone here has used this and can tell us how it worked.

ABS Brake System Bleed Procedure - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums

And here's a link to DealerTool: DealerTool diagnostic access to your ECU, for Triumph, Keihin and Sagem ECUs. Dealer Tool OBD and diagnostic interface for Daytona, 675, sprint, speed triple, bonneville, tiger, Rocket3, Rocket

Looks like a nice tool for basic maintenance even abs fault reading. I see nothing about bleeding.
Nor does it allow for map changes like fueling, timing, rev limits or any simple coolant fan changes, idle, or open/closed loop choices. All and all pretty usless. Ompared to even tune ecu let alone tune boy.

 

[MIG]

Yea, ZoneIII - download TuneEcu free for windows or if you are using Android it will cost about $12 from Android Apps - I'm absolutely NOT a computer person & the Android has worked great for me with my stunted abilities - I have read on here that some others that are more able have used both & say the android seems to be much easier to navigate - get the cable from Lonelec.com for about $22.00

Diagnostic Interface for TuneECU Motorbikes

It will come with a free adapter to plug in to phones, tab's, ect.
You can get the cable from Amazon that others have, but some complained that they never could get it to work, even tho they ordered the one with the FTDI chip that is required, then ordered the one from Lonelec.com & it worked fine. so it's a 50/50 chance on that.

And tuneEcu also will give you the ability to balance your throttle bodies that you were asking about, diagnose codes, reset limits, load a different tune to your ECU, ect, ect

Thanks for the info! Ordered...
-MIG

 

[Bedifferent]

I'm confused on the whole ABS bleeding procedure as has been posted in this link.

ABS Brake System Bleed Procedure - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums

Yes, The procedure is correct as outlined in the link, but specifically my new service manual says....

"Using the diagnostic tool it is possible to bleed the ABS Modulator of trapped air. This is necessary when the hydraulic brake system has been dismantled, or the ABS modulator renewed".

My take from the manual is...you can bleed the brakes as you normally would without any issues unless you have done what has been outlined above. The other might be if you have allowed air in the system during normal bleeding of the brakes for example.

 

[sonny]

While back I hit the back brakes and had nothing. Very seldom do I use the back brakes. When I got up the next morning figured that there had to be some trapped air and bleed the back brakes. A lot of air came out and the brakes have worked fine since then. Did nothing to the ABS system just bleed the brakes as you would do. Did I miss something here?

 

[Bedifferent]

While back I hit the back brakes and had nothing. Very seldom do I use the back brakes. When I got up the next morning figured that there had to be some trapped air and bleed the back brakes. A lot of air came out and the brakes have worked fine since then. Did nothing to the ABS system just bleed the brakes as you would do. Did I miss something here?

I'm not sure, but there has been a lot of discussion in the past that you have to do special things with the ABS brake system on a Rocket when bleeding the brakes. From my take on what the manual says, you only have to deal with the ABS when you meet the conditions mentioned in the manual.

 

[sonny]

Thats a good thing. I thought maybe I missed something somewhere. The Rocket is my first ABS bike.