Useless Rocket 3 Trivia / Questions / Info

[TRIIICK]

Assuming a wet weight of 366 kg, your 31.95 kg would be about 9% motor weight on the kick.
Would be interesting to know the lean angle provided by resting on the kick, height and angle of the down kick and fool with some trig . . .

Nothing a good strong hay pusher couldn't handle ....

 

[instant]

I have Rivco side stand pad on my RIII. My garage has industrial tile floor with half of the surface leveled about 2° downhill, towards the garage door. When I park the rocket in Neutral on that uneven part and put the handlebar straight, it slides down on the kickstand like if there was the third wheel instead of the kickstand.. no resistance at all.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Nothing a good strong hay pusher couldn't handle ....

I want her She could push me home on my rocket the next time the drive train locks up !

 

[Joesmoe]

And that is a workable figure. Remember, when we mount the motor, and move upright, we're employing a lever arm with significant advantage over a simple dead lift of 31.95 kg.

And @RevRoss I heartily applaud your pose and your premise "for the love of it." THANK YOU.

 

[barbagris]

Assuming a wet weight of 366 kg, your 31.95 kg would be about 9% motor weight on the kick.
Would be interesting to know the lean angle provided by resting on the kick, height and angle of the down kick and fool with some trig . . .

Pah - All you need is an angle sensor. When I last looked - before doing the forks it was close to 11° - Remember when I was developing my own adaptive lights? - Which reminds me .......

 

[1olbull]

I have Rivco side stand pad on my RIII. My garage has industrial tile floor with half of the surface leveled about 2° downhill, towards the garage door. When I park the rocket in Neutral on that uneven part and put the handlebar straight, it slides down on the kickstand like if there was the third wheel instead of the kickstand.. no resistance at all.

With a 3.5% slope (2°) to your smooth garage floor with about a .55g coefficient, the resultant coefficient would be .52g in the downhill direction.
In neutral, wheel rolling resistance is about .02g. With 736 lbs above the CG and 70 lbs on the kick, the issue is to determine at what slope resistance will be overcome and the motor will slide while sitting on the kick.
Can be done; however, a tad above my pay grade!
I shall be checking into this further . . .

 

[cusso ken]

When I watched the video of the Hay pusher in bare feet it reminded me of how many snakes I have found in bales of hay when we were carting Hay they get in there because it is shelter and warm ,Bonus when the video finished there was heaps of Kawasaki Concours (1400GTR) stuff

 

[1olbull]

Pah - All you need is an angle sensor. When I last looked - before doing the forks it was close to 11° - Remember when I was developing my own adaptive lights? - Which reminds me .......

Heh! Heh! Heh!
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The lean angle is only one needed item needed in determining at what slope the floor will allow the motor to creep downhill?

 

[barbagris]

The lean angle is only one needed item needed in determining at what slope the floor will allow the motor to creep downhill?

Coefficient of friction of road surface. ime a Darkside rear increases the "creep" potential quite a bit. Not just fore/aft slope - but also L/R slope. Ambient temps affect tickover speed - affects vibration - affects frictional loss.

ime the rivco stand plates increase the likelihood, too. But it's a small price to pay for finding the stand punching a hole in the tarmac and leaning further over. God it's heavy.

 

[barbagris]

Heh! Heh! Heh!
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Aha so now I see - You have to move the bike towards them. Hence the interest in downhill creep. Got it!.