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Cane Corso, You the man. You have my lifetime respect. Doors off, lol. We would remove practically all their furniture too, save bed and place to do homework.

Tough love is what it takes. Mostly at her age.

Spare the rod ... use a switch instead!

My Grandmother used to scare the **** out of me. She'd make me go cut my own "Switch" off the willow tree. And if she didn't like my choice and had to cut one herself, that was my ass!

Something went horribly wrong when spanking children went out of fashion.

I was introduced to switches when I hid every belt in the house. Somewhere around 6 years old.

nolton said:

I was introduced to switches when I hid every belt in the house. Somewhere around 6 years old.

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OOOHH I hated that sound when Dad would fold his belt in half and snap it. It still makes me cringe.

See how effective a little capital punishment is ... at 46 I can still feel the welt on my ars.

Keep after her Cane. Taking the doors off the hinges is funny. I knew a landlord that would take the front doors off of his rental homes "for repair" if the tenant wasn't paying rent.

Wow I wished I would have thought about taking the doors off when I was renting when they were not paying.
I tell you I only got rough with my daugter twice and the second time she said if I touch her again she will throw my ass in jail I said if you think that is rough phone the cops up and your see rough before they even get here.
I think I scared the **** out of her and my wife got mad at me and said that was uncalled for.
I said yea mabe but she will think twice to phone the cops
Sometimes I don't think I was cut out to be a parent.

I want to here more of other peoples stories, I need to know how long this is going to last and will it get worse befor it gets better?

I could only give you a story from the child's view.
My mother was and is an Air Force Slut, She's been married to this last one longer than any before. I think it's going on 20yrs now but it's probably lasted because she finally got old. She's on her 7th marriage at this time so you can only imagine how many men there were total in order to arrive at #7. Consequently my brother and I were dragged from base to base throughout our childhood, every single report card had a different last name signed at the bottom and never completed a semester in one location.

#6 pushed me over the edge at 16 by charging me rent and trying to take the keys to my car. I moved out and have never been back. But see there were no drugs involved and I had a job (several), AND put myself through college.

I'm a cynical prick because I don't have family to smooth out life's rough spots, it's just me and the wife. Like right now, just lost my job due to another persons incompetence. And if I hadn't socked away some cash, I'd be homeless in a couple months. Your daughter doesn't know how good she has it ... her parents give a ****.

It's the **** drugs more than anything else, once they get that "easy feeling" that's all they want and think it will last forever if they can just get away from the "bad people". I never had more motivation, energy and focus than when I was a teen. It's only later in life that I realized that all the "you can be anything you want" crap was crap.

I don't know what to tell you about girls, you can't put them out like boys ... some ******* will take them in and use them. You got it rough man, did the courts assign you any professional help for her? I hope Canada has better programs than the States ... here if you put a kid in a program it's just training them to be a REAL criminal.

I sure hope you get some good advice that works, I feel for ya.

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here if you put a kid in a program it's just training them to be a REAL criminal.

I sure hope you get some good advice that works, I feel for ya.

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So true. I met alot of people that went through one of those and yea, they came out more angry and bitter than before.

Hellfire, sorry to here about the job situation. Good luck. ****, you had a rough life.
At least you turned out better than the direction life was pushing you. I dont know whats worse, no family or a really f*#@ed up family.

cane corso, dont be surprised if she runs away. You need to watch her close. When she acts like everything is great and back to normal thats when somethings up.

Cane, its gonna get worse before it gets better. You are NOT to blame. You or your wife. Please believe me. Now this is a critical time because your baby could take off if she is pressured enough. If you push, she will push harder. Some reverse psychology might be in order. Not that you havent but try talking to her like the adult you want her to be. Like she has a choice in the matter.
So she doesnt want to go to toronto, OK ask her what is she gonna do? Where is she gonna live? How are you gonna survive? Make it seem like your considering leaving her there and moving on. Find out what plans for the future she has. College? Finish high school? Career? Skills for the future? Marriage? Kids? Check her reaction.
Now the tricky part is how far do you take it before you cave and demand she get on the plane? You might get through to her before that happens and she is willing to go. Let her know you want her to be successful and have a good life (not that you havent already).

Now I just moved my 18yr old baby girl to Boston to live smack dab in the city with a friend in some crappy apartment paying too much rent (her not me). That is what she wanted. She got a job (just started this week) and she is going to try to go to the art school in the fall. It was very difficult. Driving her there and knowing she was going to be on her own. But sometimes you have to let them fall. My girl is not mature enough or ready or even has a clue what its like in the real world and it scares the hell out of me. But did any of us have a clue?
Good luck keep us posted

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