I guess that no one else will say it so I will. Try church, find a good one. I have and we have a lot of youth in ours and it is definitely motorcycle friendly and I do not see any evidence of drug use amongst the youth in our congregation and believe me I would know when I see it even the residual effects.

The link below is where and what our church does. Now branching out and starting up in places like Vancouver, BC. I'll pray for your family. God Bless you and your family.

Get them on line and in contact with Rev. Mke or Rusty if you like.
 
Hellfire I liked your post :)
Here in Utah the kids just go up in the mountains and party away from everything
Me taking her to Toronto there won't be easy places like that to dissapear and because we are paying like 15% taxes there are a lot of police.
We are thinking of putting her in a Catholic school were she can learn religion as well as more dissaplint.
When I was a kid because my dad was Itailian and my mom Irish they used to call me half breed so I got in a lot of fights my dad put me in a Catholic school thinking I'll get more dissalpint it was worse I got kicked out:( so my dad said if I keep on fighting that he will put me in milatary school and I said I never start a fight I just finish it.
And one day I got in such a bad fight and I hurt the guy so bad and put him in the hospital and me in into court the only thing that saved me from not going to jail is that he was so much more bigger then me that it came out as self defence and they said don't let me see you here again , and from that day I learnd how to control my temper and just walk away.
Some times something bad needs to happen but its my little girl and I need to pretect her as best I can , I never got a edgecation because I was kick out of so many schools not one wanted me so I always had two jobs all the way until I got married to just keep me out of trouble. Maybe I should just put her in a milartay school so she will be forced to go to school and learn dissaplint and respect and get a good edgecation .
I lucked out and found a smart woman that thinks the world of me even though my edgecation sucks.
All I can give my daughter is a good edgecation, the thing is she is smart she got A's at one time with not even trying .
My wife keeps on saying if I got edgecation that I would be dangerouse thats great that she loves me:)
I had both my kids in Karate they were getting really good but when we moved to Seattle they didn't want to do it anymore I tryied to keep it up with them to keep them ingage but they just didn't want to do it , Now I kick my self that I should of made them at least it would of help her with disaplint it seems when kids are busy they just don't have time to get there self in trouble now she is 16 she doesn't want to do anything.
If I would of kept her in Karate at least she would of had friends in the same thing and haveing fun .
Now her friends are all about partying hanging out and going up in the mountains .
Well a few mounths in Toronto I'll give a report back to see what changes there is and hope there is, now its just getting her to the airport and on to the plane with out people thinking I'm kidnapping her:)
 
you can take solace in knowing that on this forum a lot of guys have had somehow similar situations and feel what you are going through , me included so you are not alone and you can discourse all you want about the generation gap causing those problems we are with you and sincerely hoping that your daughter will come around remember that sometime kids do grow up when we expect it the least and surprise us with their mature decisions I hope this will happen to you. welcome back to canada..
 
Albertaduke, that is funny you have as your location in the cold:)
Well thanks I never wanted to talk about it earlyier because I was so up set but its nice to hear of all the conserns and that I'm not the only one but sad that there is others that had even more problems,I feel like I have aged five years.
Going up next Friday to look for another house hope this house in Utah sells faster than our one in Seattle that look all most a year to sell.

Thanks you guys
 
Oh ****, Houses. Dude you are my inspiration ... Your plate is so full yet you just go along like its par for course. More power to you.
I'm ****in' myself right now over a job suspension due to anothers mistake and you give me the feeling like it's nothing to be worried about.

It might seem corny but I get some solace knowing others like you are working through their problems like it's just another day.

Thank you.
 
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+3]The Serenity Prayer[/SIZE][/FONT]​

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]--Reinhold Niebuhr[/SIZE][/FONT]
 
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]Trust in the LORD[/SIZE] with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will direct your paths.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]Proverbs 3, 5-6[/SIZE][/FONT]
 
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]Trust in the LORD[/SIZE] with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will direct your paths.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]Proverbs 3, 5-6[/SIZE][/FONT]
And be prepared to pack up and move to Mexico with what little you have left.
 
Hellfire, like I said before your a funny man, my dad used to always say same **** but a different pile.
Norton, the best sayings come from prayers I just can't remember them:)
My daughter says she is not packing or getting on the plane I told her that she has until Sunday for her to pack if not her sister will pack for her, and if we miss the plane because of you I'll book it again and I'll have the police come hand cuff you and drive us the the airport and walk us right to our flite your choice, she didn't say anything that good right?:)

Oh her door is off of her bed room so she thought she was smart and she slept in the other room when she got up that door was off to, the doors been off for three mounths now and I have taken her phone off her and taken the computor off her.
But need to put doors back up because I'm selling the house.
 
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