R3T derestricting

[DodahMan]

Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.

Do,you know what the peak torque curve is? I was thinking around 2500 rpm. Even though HP rises after 2500 rpm torque starts to fall. Would you want to always be riding at peak torque?

 

[Roger]

Anyone near Somerset, KY that can help me with this. I cannot find the video for instructions and kinda scared to try and wing it. Don't wanna mess anything up. Thanks

 

[cowboyuptex]

OMG I just finished reading this entire 63 pages of forum ! Wow, lots of information! All I can say is if you read this forum patiently you won’t have any questions! I will have to get the map from someone, but I have everything else figured out as to how I want to proceed. I bought the TuneEcu and cable (need to recheck cable that it’s the correct one). Loaded software to my laptop and it crashed!(hard) So Incase I got bad software, I purchased Tuneboy and cable but need to fix or replace laptop. Just want to do a run through with either software to familiarize myself. Then proceed!

 

[Ishrub]

@cowboyuptex Ouch, get refund on Tuneboy and use a smart cell phone version of free Tune ECU.

Use refund to buy another laptop.

 

[Joesmoe]

TuneECU is pay for Android - at least I was charged $12 USD for mine.

 

[Starmanut]

TuneECU is pay for Android - at least I was charged $12 USD for mine.

And, if I am correct the Android version is updated once in awhile.
I have an older HP Laptop running Windows 10 and that is what I used to load in a new map last year. It took a bit to get the drivers for TuneECU in place, but much easier than in the old days before Plug and Play came along.

My wife has a Galaxy tablet she does not use so I am considering putting the Android version of TuneECU on that and see how I like it. I have just one more map to "download" in once I get the RamAir installed.
And I'd like to try balancing the throttle bodies while I have the tank up. (Assuming the tank must be raised to get to the balancing screws).

So, I'll be spending some time in the resources thread to find the perfect map (if I don't already have it (Nels K&N/TORS))

I love this forum!!!

 

[Joesmoe]

I have an older laptop the kids no longer wanted, and that is my dedicated TuneECU host.

I suspect it won't be long before the computer will go through an update cycle, and the TuneECU will no longer work.

When I first purchased the Android version, there were capabilities it did not have, and once I encountered that, I just never went back.

I can confirm he is updating TuneECU Android infrequently.

 

[idk]

And, if I am correct the Android version is updated once in awhile.
I have an older HP Laptop running Windows 10 and that is what I used to load in a new map last year. It took a bit to get the drivers for TuneECU in place, but much easier than in the old days before Plug and Play came along.

My wife has a Galaxy tablet she does not use so I am considering putting the Android version of TuneECU on that and see how I like it. I have just one more map to "download" in once I get the RamAir installed.
And I'd like to try balancing the throttle bodies while I have the tank up. (Assuming the tank must be raised to get to the balancing screws).

So, I'll be spending some time in the resources thread to find the perfect map (if I don't already have it (Nels K&N/TORS))

I love this forum!!!

Balancing throttle body instructions are in my signature.

 

[Starmanut]

@idk
Ha ha! I looked it up and I already have it. I must have got it off of you last year some time!!
Found out what I needed! Thanks!!

 

[cowboyuptex]

Well unfortunately I have iPhone, so I’m out on that note. But I’ll investigate further!