Sidecar Flip
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Like I said in an earlier post that drew some ire.......'The Metz is bald before it gets it's cherry popped.
We are riding on friggin parchment. Expensive parchment.
The tire casings on my Schwinn are thicker than that.
ouch! new tire
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Like I said in an earlier post that drew some ire.......'The Metz is bald before it gets it's cherry popped.
We are riding on friggin parchment. Expensive parchment.
The tire casings on my Schwinn are thicker than that.
Toystoretom
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Just some thoughts...
That Goodyear has a very square profile, there are many metric radials that are much more rounded, almost motorcycle like...
Quality control on motorcycle tires is much higher, due to liability. A failure of a motorcycle tire causes an almost certain crash. Cars have 4 wheels and most times tire failure is not catastrophic. I don't think I've ever seen a motorcycle tire blow out or slip a belt like I have on car tires. I'm sure its happened but I have to believe its a much smaller percentage with MC tires. MC tires are almost perfectly balanced when new... car tires, not so good.
You can't compare casings from car tires to motorcycle tires. Car tires handle at least twice the weight and must be constructed to handle much more than that due to braking forces ect. Motorcycle casings are constructed differently than car casings and can take much more along the lines of sidewall stress than a car tire can, something you should keep in mind.
A car that has a small camber problem can eat the tread of a car tire in a few short miles. Motorcycle lean is a camber problem to a car tire. The casings and tread aren't designed for that. Someone who corners hard often could soon be into the cord on the corners of the tire. If you live in western Nebraska or Kansas you will never see this happen.
I rode a Boss Hoss that had a car tire on the back of it, I had to work hard to get it to corner. It would fight until I got it up on the sharp corner of that tire and then it would go "over center" and almost fall as I continued to lean. At first it was scary but I got used to it and it was just a pain from then on.
Car tires are made from very hard rubber to allow them to rack up very impressive mileage figures. Coopers are made out of granite, they last forever. Hard rubber isn't sticky and does poorly in the wet. It is all a trade off. Grooves and siping help, but still...
If you are running a car tire I will leave you for dead in the twisties...
That Goodyear has a very square profile, there are many metric radials that are much more rounded, almost motorcycle like...
Quality control on motorcycle tires is much higher, due to liability. A failure of a motorcycle tire causes an almost certain crash. Cars have 4 wheels and most times tire failure is not catastrophic. I don't think I've ever seen a motorcycle tire blow out or slip a belt like I have on car tires. I'm sure its happened but I have to believe its a much smaller percentage with MC tires. MC tires are almost perfectly balanced when new... car tires, not so good.
You can't compare casings from car tires to motorcycle tires. Car tires handle at least twice the weight and must be constructed to handle much more than that due to braking forces ect. Motorcycle casings are constructed differently than car casings and can take much more along the lines of sidewall stress than a car tire can, something you should keep in mind.
A car that has a small camber problem can eat the tread of a car tire in a few short miles. Motorcycle lean is a camber problem to a car tire. The casings and tread aren't designed for that. Someone who corners hard often could soon be into the cord on the corners of the tire. If you live in western Nebraska or Kansas you will never see this happen
.I rode a Boss Hoss that had a car tire on the back of it, I had to work hard to get it to corner. It would fight until I got it up on the sharp corner of that tire and then it would go "over center" and almost fall as I continued to lean. At first it was scary but I got used to it and it was just a pain from then on.
Car tires are made from very hard rubber to allow them to rack up very impressive mileage figures. Coopers are made out of granite, they last forever. Hard rubber isn't sticky and does poorly in the wet. It is all a trade off. Grooves and siping help, but still...
If you are running a car tire I will leave you for dead in the twisties...
IronMike
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I will be sticking to the original tire. The bike is designed so well and why mess with it. Unless it makes it faster.
After reading these postings it occured to me.
We change tire twice as much as oil! Don't seem right...
After reading these postings it occured to me.
We change tire twice as much as oil! Don't seem right...
Toystoretom
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IronMike said:
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Maybe they should give away 2 free tires with every oil filter
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Sidecar Flip
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Jack:
If you need to do chassis work, you won't need one of those rotisserie things Eastwoods sells. With bike tires on your car, just lean it way over and prop it up with a 2x4.
Sidecar Flip
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IronMike said:
Maybe they should give away 2 free tires with every oil filter
Tomo:
That is simply the best idea I've heard yet. Change your oil and change your tires. Kinda like an Indy pit stop.
Now, if they weren't so **** hard to get off the rims.....
Gunshots
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I got me one good tire, I'm thinkin Crager wheels
Latest up date...... I have over 500 miles on this new tire. Have dropped the air pressure from 34 down to 32 and has made a world of difference. I cannot feel the sholder on the eagle at all. I would believe that some of it is getting used to the tire, but much has changed with the drop in psi.. I had a chance tonight to get someone behind me in the twisties, Almost in disbelief the noted that almost half of the tire remained in contact with the road. the pegs (floorboards) wern't scraping obviousley, I had the wife on behind me and she wasn't interested in leaning any further. As she tightened her grip on the love handles I had to agree. We also ended up on a short stretch of gravel road with a high crown, and a pea stone parking lot. I think the term uneasy is probably most suitable for both of those situiations. but then again I was (and probably always will be) uneasy on the metzlers. something about grinding stone & gravel into paint, skin and my shorts just sends shivers up my spine. I admit I have always been kind of a ***** in loose gravel with a bike in the 6 to 8 hundred pound range. Also got on a blacktop road with deep grooves from heavy trucks (Another thing we are proud of here in Michigan)(usually followed by a stretch of the tennis racket stuff) these grooves swing you from side to side, but not any worse than other bikes I have owned. I going to ride a few hundred more miles at 32 psi and then seeif I can detect anything unusual in tread wear then I may try dropping a tad more. Last but not least my wife thinks it rides much smoother, I got rid if the howl of the rear tire. I am tickled pink with the new tire. Say!!! what happened to PF on the pink Rocket we havn't heard from him lately
Latest up date...... I have over 500 miles on this new tire. Have dropped the air pressure from 34 down to 32 and has made a world of difference. I cannot feel the sholder on the eagle at all. I would believe that some of it is getting used to the tire, but much has changed with the drop in psi.. I had a chance tonight to get someone behind me in the twisties, Almost in disbelief the noted that almost half of the tire remained in contact with the road. the pegs (floorboards) wern't scraping obviousley, I had the wife on behind me and she wasn't interested in leaning any further. As she tightened her grip on the love handles I had to agree. We also ended up on a short stretch of gravel road with a high crown, and a pea stone parking lot. I think the term uneasy is probably most suitable for both of those situiations. but then again I was (and probably always will be) uneasy on the metzlers. something about grinding stone & gravel into paint, skin and my shorts just sends shivers up my spine. I admit I have always been kind of a ***** in loose gravel with a bike in the 6 to 8 hundred pound range. Also got on a blacktop road with deep grooves from heavy trucks (Another thing we are proud of here in Michigan)(usually followed by a stretch of the tennis racket stuff) these grooves swing you from side to side, but not any worse than other bikes I have owned. I going to ride a few hundred more miles at 32 psi and then seeif I can detect anything unusual in tread wear then I may try dropping a tad more. Last but not least my wife thinks it rides much smoother, I got rid if the howl of the rear tire. I am tickled pink with the new tire.
Say!!! what happened to PF on the pink Rocket we havn't heard from him latelyPig9r
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I think Flip sees him every Sunday at church.
Sidecar Flip
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Yeah, church of the MIG welders.
I smell and Eagle in the future, but I may explore a speed rated tire with a higher aspect ratio. That will give me a more rounded crown. I figure by the time I get back from Nashville it should be right around 3500 miles plus what I've got on the bike already will spell a new tire.
I smell and Eagle in the future, but I may explore a speed rated tire with a higher aspect ratio. That will give me a more rounded crown. I figure by the time I get back from Nashville it should be right around 3500 miles plus what I've got on the bike already will spell a new tire.
