"Actually having the factory indicator AND the GiPro would be really handy. With the GiPro you not only would have an extra 7% power in lower gears from the timing retard eliminator, but you could actually SEE which gear the bike thinks it's in. And if you don't want the larger GiPro Gear Position Indicator, you can always put it under the tank or seat so you don't have to look at it."
Does the GIpro give that 7% even with secondaries removed? Honestly it seems that in the lower gears there is more than that performance gained, it feels like way more than 7%, but maybe its throttle response too. I saw a post that said the timing didn’t make that big of power difference compared to the butterflies. I understand the benefit of being able to see what gear you’re tricking the bike into, but seeing that on the stock gauge would bug me, just personally… we all have those little things that get to us!
I am curious about the tune with the roadster TOR’s. I understand on other models the TOR tune just changes the seconday position, but the roadster TOR’s also remove the cats that are in the mufflers so I wonder if the tune is different than the models where TOR doesn’t change the cats, just the sound.