All fair and balanced statements, Steve and Ish.
As I thought I eludidated in the past, both of my VTXs were worked to produce over 100 rwhp and I never encountered either a V2K rider or an M109 rider that could grease me in a friendly road race, which I enjoyed, uhhh, several times against both of those machines/riders.
I agree that either of those bikes
should be able to outperform
most VTX 1800s, if properly equipped and in the hands of a competent rider, though. Steve more than likely would have been able to walk away from either of my big Hondas and pretty much anyone that really knew what they were doing with their bone stock 109s (uptuned as they were from the factory) should have been able to do the same, but those likely outcomes never occurred with me in the saddle and on the throttle.