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It was the sprocket that was re designed. when you get it off it looks a bit thin at the keyway
Lower Timing Chain Blew-up!!!!!!!
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Sidecar Flip
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It was the sprocket that was re designed. when you get it off it looks a bit thin at the keyway
Now that I'm an old fart, I too am a bit thin at the keyway. However, a redesign won't help..............
av8r4fun
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Another Update!!
Spoke to the mechanic yesterday. Well another wrench is thrown into the toolbox..
The main bearings are on backorder shipment. They are supposed to come in any day!!!
The bike (frame) is suspended 5'in the air, engine removed. I asked him to take some digital pix, he is going to get some shots. Maybe, I can post them. Of course, it is probably like going to the doctor for surgery, some may have weak stomachs...........
SO, down another flippin week.................. go'in on 3 weeks so far.
Spoke to the mechanic yesterday. Well another wrench is thrown into the toolbox..
The main bearings are on backorder shipment. They are supposed to come in any day!!!
The bike (frame) is suspended 5'in the air, engine removed. I asked him to take some digital pix, he is going to get some shots. Maybe, I can post them. Of course, it is probably like going to the doctor for surgery, some may have weak stomachs...........
SO, down another flippin week..................
go'in on 3 weeks so far.
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
Berry interesting update. I'm wondering if the mains got scored with some bits of errant metal in the debauchery? Remember, they are insert bearings......
I too can hang my Rocket 5 feet off the floor if I want to. That's how I change the oil anyway. I use the 5 ton air hoist in the shop and 2 webbed machinery slings.
I too can hang my Rocket 5 feet off the floor if I want to. That's how I change the oil anyway. I use the 5 ton air hoist in the shop and 2 webbed machinery slings.
av8r4fun
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Still no Bearings...........
Well, the f....ing bearings are still not shipped
Looks like another week down...........ugh!!!!
3-weeks was anticipated, but 4................
Well, the f....ing bearings are still not shipped
Looks like another week down...........ugh!!!!
3-weeks was anticipated, but 4................
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
Be patient......
I still don't understand why Baxter's is replacing the crankshaft insert bearings other than some debris scored them. They are of the lead-indium variety. Having the lower end bearings replaced tells me that the uppers suffered to. Problem with that is there are no uppers. The camshafts ride in a bearing-less saddle cast into the head itself (which from an engineering standpoint works well as the radial forces exerted by the cams actuating a valve are canceled by the opposing valve), so, are they replacing the head too?
Like I said before, I find it interesting that the head isn't rebuildable with the guides cast in and not shrunk in (which is common practice) but the block is linered and the lower end has insert bearings. Remember one thing with insert bearings and that is they must, at all times, have a continuous flow of filtered oil. One second of oil interruption means loss of boundary lubrication and a spun bearing. With a dry sump lubrication system and tandem oil pumps, it seems to me that Triumph addressed the boundary lubrication problem quite well.
Look at it this way. What is going on in their shop isn't a 'hurry up' job. Personally, I'd rather have them do the bike right and take their time and replace everything questionable than do a bang up job and have the engine fail again down the road sometime. Though I've never dealt with Baxter's, I've always heard it's a first class operation and that in itself would negate 99% of my worry.
I still don't understand why Baxter's is replacing the crankshaft insert bearings other than some debris scored them. They are of the lead-indium variety. Having the lower end bearings replaced tells me that the uppers suffered to. Problem with that is there are no uppers. The camshafts ride in a bearing-less saddle cast into the head itself (which from an engineering standpoint works well as the radial forces exerted by the cams actuating a valve are canceled by the opposing valve), so, are they replacing the head too?
Like I said before, I find it interesting that the head isn't rebuildable with the guides cast in and not shrunk in (which is common practice) but the block is linered and the lower end has insert bearings. Remember one thing with insert bearings and that is they must, at all times, have a continuous flow of filtered oil. One second of oil interruption means loss of boundary lubrication and a spun bearing. With a dry sump lubrication system and tandem oil pumps, it seems to me that Triumph addressed the boundary lubrication problem quite well.
Look at it this way. What is going on in their shop isn't a 'hurry up' job. Personally, I'd rather have them do the bike right and take their time and replace everything questionable than do a bang up job and have the engine fail again down the road sometime. Though I've never dealt with Baxter's, I've always heard it's a first class operation and that in itself would negate 99% of my worry.
av8r4fun
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Thanks...
Flip, Thanks for your comments, I totally agree, don't rush the process do it right the first time. I was more referencing Triumph not prioritizing the shipment of the bearings to Baxter. I have had long conversations regarding doing it correct and Gus doesn't want to see it again other than in passing. I referenced that Gus ought to ride the bike for 50-100 miles to make sure all is good, no leaks liquid or exhaust then I will go get it. Just frustrated that I might have lost my riding season. Most the people in my office are Har(d)ley riders and you probably know the crap I am takin'. As I have mentioned, I would still buy another Rocket. Absolutely love the bike!!!!!!!!!!!
Just back to watching too **** many sports instead of picking bugs off my teeth..... You know.....
Ride Safe!!!!!!!!!!!
Flip, Thanks for your comments, I totally agree, don't rush the process do it right the first time. I was more referencing Triumph not prioritizing the shipment of the bearings to Baxter. I have had long conversations regarding doing it correct and Gus doesn't want to see it again other than in passing. I referenced that Gus ought to ride the bike for 50-100 miles to make sure all is good, no leaks liquid or exhaust then I will go get it. Just frustrated that I might have lost my riding season. Most the people in my office are Har(d)ley riders and you probably know the crap I am takin'. As I have mentioned, I would still buy another Rocket. Absolutely love the bike!!!!!!!!!!!
Just back to watching too **** many sports instead of picking bugs off my teeth.....
You know.....Ride Safe!!!!!!!!!!!
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
I believe I'm going to start calling you Charles Lindberg instead of av8r4fun....
I can imagine the razz level is pretty intense.
To make you feel a little better I'll relate a story that actually happened to me a few years ago. I've probably mentioned here before that I use to be real big into snowmobiles. I even have the frostbite to prove I was a hardcore rider. I used to go for 4 weeks in mid winter to The Ontario North Country for snow machining and 4 or 5 times to Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Anyway, sleds are like bikes in many ways. They are about horsepower and speed but the handling is like riding a go-kart but on snow. I used to be into lake racing. That's where you have a big displacement sled with gobs of horsepower and you ride on the ice of a frozen lake which has little friction so insane speeds are easily obtainable. In 2001 I bought an Arctic Cat 1000 triple. The T'Cat put 180 horses to the track stock so all I did was add 220 tungsten carbide picks to the track and 14 inches of carbide V rod to the skis. I packed the sled up and took it to Ontario. Got to Cochrane, Ontario, unloaded the sled (and my buddies sleds), got settled in our rooms and went for a ride. I took off down the trail and right away I noticed the temperature gage was running hot (these sleds are liquid cooled just like the Rocket). I go a little farther and it seems to be slowing down even though I'm applying more throttle. Then the engine starts squeaking a little so I stop. My buddies ride up and we open the hood. That sucker is HOT. I'm thinking what do I do. I'm 14 hours from home, on a new sled and she's gonna come apart. I closed the hood, started her up and firewalled the engine. She got up to around 100 and came totally apart. We hooked a tow rope on her and pulled her back to the lodge, loaded her on the trailer and I rented a sled for the trip. When I got her home and back at the dealer, I welded the wrist pin in the number 3 piston, dropped the con rod and the cap went right through the bottom of the case, through the bellypan and I left that up in Ontario. Because the sled was new and under warranty, Arctic Cat installed a new engine and paid for my sled rental in Ontario. Warranties are great as is a company that stands behind their machines. There are a lot of parts in there that have to work in harmony and sometimes things get a little out of kilter. With the new engine, the sled would pull over 160 mph on the ice and that's hauling ass 6 inches off the ground. It would also do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds and carry the front skis to 100.
I kept the sled another year and sold it. I figured it was time for something saner so I bought the T100, put on the sidecar and then bought the R3.
be patient. When you look back, it will be but a mere bump in the road.
I can imagine the razz level is pretty intense.
To make you feel a little better I'll relate a story that actually happened to me a few years ago. I've probably mentioned here before that I use to be real big into snowmobiles. I even have the frostbite to prove I was a hardcore rider. I used to go for 4 weeks in mid winter to The Ontario North Country for snow machining and 4 or 5 times to Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Anyway, sleds are like bikes in many ways. They are about horsepower and speed but the handling is like riding a go-kart but on snow. I used to be into lake racing. That's where you have a big displacement sled with gobs of horsepower and you ride on the ice of a frozen lake which has little friction so insane speeds are easily obtainable. In 2001 I bought an Arctic Cat 1000 triple. The T'Cat put 180 horses to the track stock so all I did was add 220 tungsten carbide picks to the track and 14 inches of carbide V rod to the skis. I packed the sled up and took it to Ontario. Got to Cochrane, Ontario, unloaded the sled (and my buddies sleds), got settled in our rooms and went for a ride. I took off down the trail and right away I noticed the temperature gage was running hot (these sleds are liquid cooled just like the Rocket). I go a little farther and it seems to be slowing down even though I'm applying more throttle. Then the engine starts squeaking a little so I stop. My buddies ride up and we open the hood. That sucker is HOT. I'm thinking what do I do. I'm 14 hours from home, on a new sled and she's gonna come apart. I closed the hood, started her up and firewalled the engine. She got up to around 100 and came totally apart. We hooked a tow rope on her and pulled her back to the lodge, loaded her on the trailer and I rented a sled for the trip. When I got her home and back at the dealer, I welded the wrist pin in the number 3 piston, dropped the con rod and the cap went right through the bottom of the case, through the bellypan and I left that up in Ontario. Because the sled was new and under warranty, Arctic Cat installed a new engine and paid for my sled rental in Ontario. Warranties are great as is a company that stands behind their machines. There are a lot of parts in there that have to work in harmony and sometimes things get a little out of kilter. With the new engine, the sled would pull over 160 mph on the ice and that's hauling ass 6 inches off the ground. It would also do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds and carry the front skis to 100.
I kept the sled another year and sold it. I figured it was time for something saner so I bought the T100, put on the sidecar and then bought the R3.
be patient. When you look back, it will be but a mere bump in the road.
