Hill Hold feature

[A1A Rider]

Yeah, I was taught not to turn off electronics or engines in places where you would not want them to fail to restart. A bridge is not where I'd want to take chances.

 

[Jagster]

Yeah, I was taught not to turn off electronics or engines in places where you would not want them to fail to restart. A bridge is not where I'd want to take chances.

Apologies in advance but I have another question:
Are you actually on the bridge while it's lifted?

 

[A1A Rider]

It looks like this:

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/2HF3C10/view-of-the-fort-lauderdale-intracoastal-waterway-from-a-water-taxi-with-a-drawbridge-ahead-2HF3C10.jpg

The middle part of the bridge is lifted apart. But, yes, you can be on the bridge right next to the part that is lifted, depends on where they stop the traffic before the bridge draw. Closer you are to the middle, the steeper it is.

Vid:

 

[atomsplitter]

Yeah, I was taught not to turn off electronics or engines in places where you would not want them to fail to restart. A bridge is not where I'd want to take chances.

The suggested time limitation is consideration for overheating the solenoid (power applied) that's holding the ABS from releasing the rear brake. There are a lot of factors that come into play with that number, mostly it's conservatism on the OEM's part to ensure longevity of components (can't overheat it if you never use it). If you ride in the winter you could probably engage the Hill Hold for a few hours with no issuse at all since heat dissipation is really really good at 20 degrees farenheit. The real issue is that should you burn out the modulator (pricey little gizmo) you lose the ABS feature, not the brakes.

 

[Jagster]

It looks like this:

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/2HF3C10/view-of-the-fort-lauderdale-intracoastal-waterway-from-a-water-taxi-with-a-drawbridge-ahead-2HF3C10.jpg

The middle part of the bridge is lifted apart. But, yes, you can be on the bridge right next to the part that is lifted, depends on where they stop the traffic before the bridge draw. Closer you are to the middle, the steeper it is.

Vid:

Ok. I have a better understanding of what you're experiencing.
My thoughts are as follows:
Instead of sitting on an idling bike for ten minutes, i'd pop it in first gear and hit the kill switch, lean it onto the side stand and stand up, to stretch my legs for a short while.
Just for context beyond the subject of the Rocket 3, i'd suggest that it would be unwise to let a bike idle for ten minutes when it's already 'highway speed hot' if it was an air cooled bike, so not all riders can realistically do what you are suggesting. Just saying, but hopefully not preaching.
Don't you experience a hot right leg?

 

[TURBO200R4]

its design was for stop signs/stop lights

a shield between the pipes and the module if you will be abusing it

 

[A1A Rider]

Don't you experience a hot right leg?

Found a way to keep the radiator heat from cooking my lower leg

Riding in hot weather makes radiator fan exhaust just skin melting, specifically the right lower leg, somewhere above the ankle. So, found and bought one of these that someone makes at home. Not the most beautiful thing by far, yet functional. Link: Motorcycle Leg Heat Shield Pad, Protection...

www.r3owners.net

 

[Einar]

So, the manual says (page 101-102): "Hill hold control does not activate where the motorcycle is on level ground or facing downhill." I have not tested it downhill, but it activates on level ground no issues. Don't know why the manual is lying.

So, the worrying part: "Do not continually activate the hill hold system for periods of longer than 10 minutes. Continuous activation of the hill hold control system for periods of longer than 10 minutes may cause damage to the ABS system."

To me, it seems such a gimmicky system. Not made for the realities of the world.

It works fine for what it's designed to do, which is to assist in getting moving on a hill. It's not meant as a parking brake (which the manual specifically calls out). One shouldn't use it as a parking brake in the same way that one should not use crystal stemware to drive nails.

For long waits where you want to ensure the motorcycle won't move, the appropriate options are the same as for virtually all other motorcycles:

1. Keep your hand and/or foot on the brake, or...
2. Put it in gear with the kickstand down and the engine stopped.

My manual makes no mention of level ground or downhill situations, and it works fine on level ground (though there's no need to use it in that scenario).

 

[atomsplitter]

It occurs to me that the operation of the Hill Hold and the Hold on my Lexus are very similar. To the time aspect A1A brings up, the way Lexus dealt with it was to time out the Hold feature by automatically engaging the car's parking brake. Found this out while stopped at a RR crossing and the train was looong and slooow. The Hold was on and after about 6 minutes the dash said to engage the brake or set parking brake. WTF? Ignoring that due to my ignorance (car was new to me at the time) the parking brake engaged about 2 minutes later, completely unannounced. Sadly I didn't know where the release lever was (eventually found it tucked under the steering wheel). When the crossing arms went up I found the V-8 had more than enough power to overcome the parking brake until I found the release lever. Word of warning though, unless you like pulling major G's in your Lexus, don't snap the parking brake off with your accelerator on the floorboard at 30mph.