Braided brake lines

The figure I've seen most often for front vs rear brake stopping power is 70/30, 85 sounds a little high.
I can live with that, I believe the numbers I quoted are from Keith Code's book "Twist of the Wrist," which is more sport riding oriented. If you use only the rear brake, 100% of your stopping power is in the rear. The important factor is understanding the physics (or dynamics) of braking and applying that knowledge to your particular riding style. The numbers aren't as meaningful as the use of knowledge.
 
i was going 100+ and a semi with trailer pulled into my lane and left me nowhere to go
now i figured i was using 100% of front and 100% of rear does that mean the crazy guy was using 200%. of the brakes and seemed like i could touch the back of that trailer.
talk about a pucker coulpe of seconds.
 
i was going 100+ and a semi with trailer pulled into my lane and left me nowhere to go
now i figured i was using 100% of front and 100% of rear does that mean the crazy guy was using 200%. of the brakes and seemed like i could touch the back of that trailer.
talk about a pucker coulpe of seconds.
?!what kind of biker math is this!?
truckers are the worst, then jeep drivers
 
It has to do with the weight shift during braking. Stomp on the rear brake alone and the forks dive as weight shifts to the front of the bike. This is the basis of so many rear wheel lock-ups on the older Rockets with non-integrated brakes. As the rear tire unloads the friction forces are overcome and the tire slides happily down the road. The more weight that shifts the faster the rear tire loses traction. If you've seen someone pull a stoppie the rear tire has 0% stopping power when it's dangling 2 feet in the air. On lighter bikes the weight shift is lower because less mass to start but the stopping force ratio is about the same. If you ride with a passenger you get the benefit of some of their weight over the rear tire but the forks will still dive on hard braking due to weight shift. The reason there are two disks in front is that's where most of the stopping power is. On my Speed Triple I can set the riding mode to unlink the brakes so I can use the rear brake alone. This is in TRACK mode. The purpose of this is to trim speed using trail braking technique and is employed by racers. It still shifts the weight of the bike and makes the steering heavier, however is used to trim speed while in the corner. If you watch any MotoGP racing you'll see prior to turn entry most of the riders are on the front brakes hard enough to skip the rear tire off the tarmac. Do that in a corner and you lowside.

If you use mostly rear brakes for stopping that's fine, but in an emergency situation using only the rear brake is where you find the bike gets loose and then applying fronts drops you on the pavement as most riders get completely out of shape. I had the experience of going sideways on my Rocket in 2009 while towing a trailer and stepped on the rear brake coming to a fast stop when the bike in front of me hit his brakes. I let go of the rear brake, straightened out and then hit it again as his bike was coming up fast and same result, went sideways as the trailer tried to pass me. I let go the rear straightened out and grabbed a handfull of front and it stopped with enough control to manuver around the bike in front of me. The people behind me had a pool going on how bad the wreck was going to be, me I had a pool growing in my undershorts during the event. After that I never touched the rear brake again with a trailer on and stopping was easy and controlled. After that experience I have shifted my braking technique to mostly front and use the rear to assist in speed reduction.
Gratitude for your response.
Chris' (Tripps) comment below are spot on per the scientific research. I thought you may have some new, unknown to me, research.
 
i was going 100+ and a semi with trailer pulled into my lane and left me nowhere to go
now i figured i was using 100% of front and 100% of rear does that mean the crazy guy was using 200%. of the brakes and seemed like i could touch the back of that trailer.
talk about a pucker coulpe of seconds.
Herman,
Unlikely you were at 100% front brake efficiency. That would be just prior to a skid which requires high skill and continued practice. A front wheel skid will put you on your ass right away (in a foot or three).
Most motors can out brake most cages, BUT motors require a high skill level, especially without ABS.
 
It looks about 66%F to 33%R breaking force...
 

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Was wondering If anyone has put braided Iines thur out ther beast, and if it did anything to slow the angry heavy bugger
Mine came with braided lines. I've put braided lines on every bike. With that said, the below is a condensed version of what I've read over the ast 10 years.

Most stock modern bikes will out perform most average riders in every way.

If you're riding short, easy distances then it doesn't really matter. If your pushing your bike then they (braided lines) will reduce break fade over time.

They look good. Get em in a nice colour and break till you're endo'ing everywhere.

If you don't agree then find me and fight me IRL (bring beer please).
 
On my 07 i have had a lot of rear tire slides which almost all caused the rear to move to the right and i had to release the brake to keep from going down (or it seemed that way).
Now my other experience with the front tire was on the freeway probably around 65 not paying attention i was going to miss my exit so breaking hard i was sliding the front tire (was going straight maybe because back was not locked up, ) but it didn't take long b4 i realized that this was dumb and aborted my turn.
Speaking for myself if i could i would slide the last 25 yards.
 
On my 07 i have had a lot of rear tire slides which almost all caused the rear to move to the right and i had to release the brake to keep from going down (or it seemed that way).
Now my other experience with the front tire was on the freeway probably around 65 not paying attention i was going to miss my exit so breaking hard i was sliding the front tire (was going straight maybe because back was not locked up, ) but it didn't take long b4 i realized that this was dumb and aborted my turn.
Speaking for myself if i could i would slide the last 25 yards.
Same for me on rear tire slide, easier on hot slick road, get your attention pretty quick.
 
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