I ride with the Harley guys cruising at 80 down the hwy... Difference between my Rocket 3 touring and my buddie's Harley Electraglide...if we're cruising at 80mph and decide I want to go faster, I get on the throttle harder and I immediately accelerate. The Harley...not so much... And as far as torque on take off, unless the Harley had been stage 3 modified they don't have a chance in hell of keeping up...I'll keep my R3T thanks...