yeah got a workshop manual now still need to make some of them special tool up for certain jobs triumph want to much $$$
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yeah got a workshop manual now still need to make some of them special tool up for certain jobs triumph want to much $$$
HansO
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Most certainly does it works on all models
Just Cruizen
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Speedfrk the only advice I can offer is to do most of the mechanics yourself. I've got a pretty good dealer I take my bike to for diagonistics, but all the mechanical stuff I do myself. I to have been where you are and once you have sifted "The sh!t from the clay" dealer wise you'll keep going back to the one that treats you with a bit of respect
MarvinM
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Thanks hanso and ewswartze. If I'd known that, I'd have bought one a year ago. Now where's my wife's piggy bank???
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PHIL had the same problem with a dealer they had the cam timing 3 teeth off
rayjay
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Sorry to hear of your troubles..these ****e dealers do more harm to a manufacturer than the manufacturer will ever know.
If like me you have limited mechanical skills..then you have to find yourself a good independent and build a relationship..the guy who looked my Rocket was 1st class
Have just recently found a guy to look after my Goldwing and to watch him take all the Tupperware of to get to the air filter was a joy.
Downside is he's almost 200 miles away..better that than some Fecking jerk off who hasn't got a clue
RJ
If like me you have limited mechanical skills..then you have to find yourself a good independent and build a relationship..the guy who looked my Rocket was 1st class
Have just recently found a guy to look after my Goldwing and to watch him take all the Tupperware of to get to the air filter was a joy.
Downside is he's almost 200 miles away..better that than some Fecking jerk off who hasn't got a clue
RJ
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When you get it drop me your e-mail address via PM and I will send you my AFR Map to get the best out of it short of a dyno tune
budman
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call Wayne..make an appointment..go down and see him..he'll make your bike run like a top..dealers don't know **** bout these rockets
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It's not surprising that a dealer wouldn't be able to tune your bike correctly. First, let's start with the stock TOR tune. This is for TORs with cat bypass. Do you have the cat bypass? This tune is restricted by closing the secondaries significantly in all gears at RPM between 1709 and 4349. The first thing to do is get TuneECU and a cable and open the secondaries 100%. You can rip the secondaries out and tuning with a PCIII in 4th will produce trims good for all gears. This is not an ideal option. Even when the secondaries are set to 100%, they CLOSE in idle. This could be problematic so I'd leave them in.
The TORs tune will be too lean with the triples so you can do two things: 1) Put your PCIII back in and get someone who knows what they're doing to tune it. Ask whether they're using Tuning Link or whether they tune the cells manually. Manual is better. You MUST have the PCIII O2 controller plugged into the O2 sensor connector from the ECU. It's under the right side triangle. Did D&D install it? This tuning route should cost $250-300 with a good tuner. There is absolutely no need to get a PCV or autotune. There are plenty of guys who've gotten great results with your setup with a PCIII. The PCV has a built in ignition module but you can also get one for a PCIII for the 2008 R3 (if you can find someone to tune it.)
Wayne MacDonald at Tuneboy put out a custom tune for TORs/cat bypass & triple unifilters. He did change the timing. On the other hand I met a guy at my dealer who had Jardines and triples and they got 157 hp, 150 ft lbs with a good PCIII tune. If you could bring your bike to Freedom Cycle in Reno, you'd have no PCIII tuning problems; 2) Take it to Wayne Tripp.
The TORs tune will be too lean with the triples so you can do two things: 1) Put your PCIII back in and get someone who knows what they're doing to tune it. Ask whether they're using Tuning Link or whether they tune the cells manually. Manual is better. You MUST have the PCIII O2 controller plugged into the O2 sensor connector from the ECU. It's under the right side triangle. Did D&D install it? This tuning route should cost $250-300 with a good tuner. There is absolutely no need to get a PCV or autotune. There are plenty of guys who've gotten great results with your setup with a PCIII. The PCV has a built in ignition module but you can also get one for a PCIII for the 2008 R3 (if you can find someone to tune it.)
Wayne MacDonald at Tuneboy put out a custom tune for TORs/cat bypass & triple unifilters. He did change the timing. On the other hand I met a guy at my dealer who had Jardines and triples and they got 157 hp, 150 ft lbs with a good PCIII tune. If you could bring your bike to Freedom Cycle in Reno, you'd have no PCIII tuning problems; 2) Take it to Wayne Tripp.
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warp9.9
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First we need to figure out if they changed any shims. You stated they pulled the cam cover but you have to just to check the clearances. Look at your bill an dsee if you got charged for any shims. It seems weird that Brian and Jerry acted like this but never the less we need to figure out if they pulled the cams because if not then your problem is elsewhere. if so no amount of tuning is going to make the cam/crank timing change back to what it is supposed to be.
Hopfully I can get to Norfolk during the Columbus Holliday week. If they did not pull the cams we can try a few things with soem tunes and check some othe rimportant things like the low tension leads going to the coils to make sure you have good connections some times its the simple things.
Now in your case it does not really matter whether you use a PCIII or PCV although the PCV is just the PCIII and multiport hub with various connections built right in. and does have a better rpm break up range to tune with. The thing is some dealers do not realise the 09 Rockets still have the same ecu as the older one (not talking about the touring) therfore when they look up a older bike it steers them towards PCIII which is what they know anyway. People on these sites know different but not every Dealer realy spends time on the sites.
Hopfully I can get to Norfolk during the Columbus Holliday week. If they did not pull the cams we can try a few things with soem tunes and check some othe rimportant things like the low tension leads going to the coils to make sure you have good connections some times its the simple things.
Now in your case it does not really matter whether you use a PCIII or PCV although the PCV is just the PCIII and multiport hub with various connections built right in. and does have a better rpm break up range to tune with. The thing is some dealers do not realise the 09 Rockets still have the same ecu as the older one (not talking about the touring) therfore when they look up a older bike it steers them towards PCIII which is what they know anyway. People on these sites know different but not every Dealer realy spends time on the sites.
