Nat67
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blinding result ! And a good day at the races too . Twas a productive week after all ! 
Idiots can't back up
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blinding result ! And a good day at the races too . Twas a productive week after all ! 
1olbull
Riding Motor Since 1950
M8,
"Roscoe" is indeed an old gangster term for a "hand cannon".
In my case, likely a 9mm or .22mag, whichever is most handy to reach . . .
Steel
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First off, I would have never offered him my head. The guy was threatening him with a hammer. So he bends over and points at his head, like "I dare you." WTF did he think was going to happen? Not the brightest move to make.
1olbull
Riding Motor Since 1950
First off, I would have never offered him my head. The guy was threatening him with a hammer. So he bends over and points at his head, like "I dare you." WTF did he think was going to happen? Not the brightest move to make.
All true; HOWEVER, that chicken-$hit MC rider had NO call to escalate the situation to the threat of deadly force!
The use of a hammer to assault results in the use of a gun, IMO!
That little puke was threatening with the hammer by just presenting and holding it at the ready.
I would have presented him Roscoe at the point he first displayed the hammer.
One of those stand around pukes should have also intervened after the hammer use and prevented the additional kicking while down!
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All true, but we don't really know what happened before. Sometimes it's the driver that gets upset and hits the bike out of anger. If so, the driver escalated the situation to the threat of deadly force. We really don't know the whole story.
Nat67
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Swweeeet !
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Bob R
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@1olbull Well at least you didn't go way back to your first days as a flatfoot and threaten to pull out your gat.
bob
1olbull
Riding Motor Since 1950
Scott,
Even if the cage driver had purposely struck the motor, it was NOT an attack against the person of the rider. Hell, the cage driver had empty hands!
Although he did feign a furtive movement toward the motor rider, he was not within hand or foot range and he definitely did NOT present any serious life threatening threat to the motor rider who had seriously escalated the incident by bringing a hammer to a verbal argument.
The cage driver was STUPID indeed to offer a challenge, to what he apparently thought was a ridiculous hammer threat, by bending over.
That motor rider " be all hat and no cattle" thinking a hammer was necessary.
I believe that legally speaking, a man presenting a hammer in a threatening manner to another could be shot, same as if it was a knife.
1olbull
Riding Motor Since 1950
@1olbull Well at least you didn't go way back to your first days as a flatfoot and threaten to pull out your gat.
bob
Bob,
I like Gat! I believe it was from the same era.
Here it is!
Urban Dictionary: roscoe
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roscoe
old (30s-40s) term for a handgun: same vintage as gat, heater, cannon, etc. ... scared, had me scared, I was shook Daddy - but I forget I had my Roscoe on me."
BTW we are likely riding over your way for a Vet visit June 25th.
I shall keep you posted if the date becomes official.
Woulf be good fun to get together again!
