AntiTheft

[xian555]

Hi,
After perusin what I could find to read about this subject on R3Owners, here are my findings in those posts, and some ideas, at random:

1. need to think about a strategy for protecting a trailer, if I have one.
2. All locks and chains are a matter of time. This is because they're accesdible to destruction, including a problem we have here, the use of liquid nitrogen to overcome tough alloy locks.
3. The key to mechanical locks is that the mecanism must be difficult to get too or inaccessible:
   • a) tucked underneath the bike, maybe inserting something in between frame and wheel, from underneath
   • b) for locking at home, using a 3/4" or 20mm concrete bolt in the floor, and a strong magnet to engine bottom...
   • c) or a strong electromagnet on a hydraulic host below engine block, in floor
   • d) placing a concrete 1 ton block poured to shape bike, so unremovable without a cable hoist which itself is removable and taken in house/apartment
4. Locking out bike via th ECU sounds promising
5. Removing key switch sounds logical, and replacing with a cryptographic RFID/NFC key that works with a cell phone, a card, dongle, jewelry (eg finger ring with an IC chip), so it's presence or brushing descretely near lock lets bike be started. Relocks with engine shutdown, or something along those lines.
6. An unaccessible electrical contact coud be useful, such that even an external source can't be used to start engine.
7. A dash cam, and a couple of other wifi secured cams picturing thieve's faces, with motion detection that turns on an old monitor after delay indicating they're on social media like FB, or to your cell, with notification and recording to a cloud
8. Above also triggers a couple of strobes taking some quality HD pics from different angles (HD web cams are cheap)
9. Strong subsonic generator will generate nausea (but a bit $$ and not portable -- but useful in fixed remote storage places)
10. Release of a nauseating horrible smell at head level so as to produce strong nausea but not stain bike with stench
11. release of a significant shot of mercaptan to scare thieves in thinking there's a major propane or natural gas leak
12. loud noise does not work for me as false alarms will bother neighbours where I live, and have no deterrant value in remote areas; if noise is so loud, like 120 dBA, a false alarm could damage my hearing or generate a divorce
13. A loud immitation of a viscious dog (the "normal" loudness) might scare some, if speaker can't be located
14. A drone that automatically takes off and follows the bike might be a deterrant, but needs to be programmed to avoid being hit with a stone or shot down (totally doable)
15. smart sensing with a notification to one's cell phone with two way sound so you can say you can see them and ask them what the f*%^ck they think they're doing, to get away from bike or you'll let your doberman have fresh meat...
16. Remotely start your bike and manually rev it high will not please.
17. A global registry of all R3s ever built with a picture of owner, name and some ID# and phone#. Every motorcycle dealer and parts outlet would have access to registry given a serial# to see if customer matches. Incentives via insurance companies and recognition of having found a stolen R3 with free publicity to all registered R3 oweners bringing in extea business would be part of the program. Having Triumph on board would be geat. It would be maybe some kind of an"OnStar" system like GM, at first for just theft deterrance, but could become a sattelite call system for assistance.
18. A mechanical transmission lock keeping bike in 2nd or 3rd.

Well that's what comes to mind on a first pass. Will start to work on implementing some of these.
Which are your favourites? What would you pay for each if they were available?

Danm! There's still 12 weeks, 1 day and 7 hours before you don't need winter tires where I live, to ride, but who's counting? Have to move further south and be able to ride all year like a lot of you lucky iron horsemen. Any horsewomen with R3s???

Cheers,

CrazyX
(xian)

 

[Jagster]

Remove the ignition keys and place them under the door mat (they'll never think of looking under there...clever, huh?)........You forgot to list that option

#4 sounds like an interesting solution.
...but, doesn't the Mk1 Rocket3 come with an immobiliser as standard ?

On the plus side, I bet there aren't many people capable of lifting such a heavy/large bike into the back of a truck, so they're more likely to try to push it/ride it.

You got me thinking now.....hmm....let me see now.....Aha!...Got it! ........Paint the bike fluorescent pink......That will narrow down the thief demographic.
...No, no......Don't thank me. That one's on the house.

 

[xian555]

Remove the ignition keys and place them under the door mat (they'll never think of looking under there...clever, huh?)........You forgot to list that option

#4 sounds like an interesting solution.
...but, doesn't the Mk1 Rocket3 come with an immobiliser as standard ?

On the plus side, I bet there aren't many people capable of lifting such a heavy/large bike into the back of a truck, so they're more likely to try to push it/ride it.

You got me thinking now.....hmm....let me see now.....Aha!...Got it! ........Paint the bike fluorescent pink......That will narrow down the thief demographic.
...No, no......Don't thank me. That one's on the house.

Hi Jagster,
Always a pleasure to read you.

1) Is the MK1 not a 1969 model? Did that immobolizer work well? Are there after-market immobilizers available that can be installed on a 2015 R3R? Now you got me thinking, thanks! I'm not much for reinventing the wheel unless some major advantage in another design.

2) Aren't all Rocket 3's pink?
I mean how would someone go about selling a stolen bike so recognizable? Wouldn't just having to go through a plating process ganerate a red flag? You'd have to accept having a fake plate and no insurance, no?

xian

 

[stingray]

Most would just be parted out, selling the bits w/o serial numbers. I guess in the snow belt you could Remove rear wheel and store in bedroom.

 

[Jagster]

Hi Jagster,
Always a pleasure to read you.

1) Is the MK1 not a 1969 model? Did that immobolizer work well? Are there after-market immobilizers available that can be installed on a 2015 R3R? Now you got me thinking, thanks! I'm not much for reinventing the wheel unless some major advantage in another design.

2) Aren't all Rocket 3's pink?
I mean how would someone go about selling a stolen bike so recognizable? Wouldn't just having to go through a plating process ganerate a red flag? You'd have to accept having a fake plate and no insurance, no?

xian

1) Good point.......I'm pretty new to the party regarding the Rocket. I know that Triumph began using the Rocket name way back in the Meridan era, but these Hinkley Rockets are giving me a bit of problem because the model before 2020 is significantly different to the ones that came after yet they are both called Rocket 3. Because they are so different, it's often quite important to be able to easily differentiate which one is being referred to when doing searches in the classified and chatting on here for example.
I can see some folk use 'III' & 3 as a differentiator but that's not always the case.

2) Well.....Let's just say, if I was a Cop, I would have a head start in figuring out who might favour one so 'out-there'

Back to being serious....(I recon I can do that for a minute or two ).....Which is the most risky place to park up your bike?
At home or at work? for example.
I believe that a bike will more likely be stolen if it's regularly parked up in the same place on a regular basis each day/night.
If the answer is 'at home' then of course the first thing to do is park it inside a building of some sort. I never leave my bike out in my driveway when i'm not washing it or about to get on or off it......out of sight is the best way of not getting it stolen.

If it's at work or just 'generally out there on the road if you travel far and wide, then I would say:
High spec lock & chain together with engine immobiliser is the simplest solution to implement.
If some wants your bike bad enough, they are going to take it. You just want to make the task as long and as arduous as possible for them.

Also....If it's parked for long periods, get a cover for it (especially if its Pink ..)