It's hard to see in the picture but the shield lips up at the top. You used to have to specify if you wanted the lip. I just looked at their site. Either they all come with the lip now (probably) or they don't do that anymore. And yes I'm running lowers. They are modified Triumph lowers. I had some problems with exhaust fumes with the tall shield the full lowers and the Beetle bags. By cutting down the stock lowers a little I got rid of it. I have different exhaust now I might try making a full size set again and see how it goes. If your handy with plexie glass you can make your own. I can send you a template.