warning 283 rocket x

tripX

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I was to pickup my rocket X tomorrow. number 283 but when the guy wouldn't give me the vin number for a security check he got very unfriendly. The bike is under finance and should not be purchased by anyone. He is located in port Lincoln south Australia. beware spread the word. so now of hunting for a r3 again. Cheers
 

Ishrub

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You need to be a little more specific. The seller's details are public on Gumtree where they have been a member for 6 years and do not appear to be hiding.

If you were going to buy at what price and did you try a PPSR search with the rego number?
Needs VIN or chassis number. Only $2 on Federal Government website REVs check | PPSR

2015 Triumph Rocket X 2300cc Limited Edition 283/500 | Motorcycles | Gumtree Australia Port Lincoln Area - Port Lincoln | 1220962231

It has been re-registered and 3rd part personal insurance until 17 Jan 2020 after being renewed since expiring 15/08/2019.

If it is a Rocket X it may be able to find the rest of the VIN

Sonny's USA 'X' VIN is SMTCO2L46FJ698125 Engine vin 3699527 Made in 01/15

Check Registration Expiry Date
Plate Type ALPHANUMERIC
Plate Number S68AWP
Make TRIUMPH
Body Type SOLO
Primary Colour BLACK
VIN **************4544
They are all 17 character codes
S M T T L C 0 2 3 5 F 6 X 4544 where 'F' the 11th character is 2015, 6 from other Aussie 2015 R3R VINs and 'X', the 13th character is likely to be a 6 or 7 too even though serial numbers are not necessarily batch date related. Edit nope it is not a 6 or 7.;):D Yep I paid my $2 twice.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

CTP Insurer SGIC
Expiry Date 17/01/2020


My Australian VIN for 2010 model (A) Roadster with ABS with a Dec 2009 manufacturing date.
2015 Model year code for 11th character is 'F'
S M T T L C 0 2 3 5 A 4 3 2 2 6 0
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

A R3R 2014 manufacture SMTTLC0235E644001
And another 2015 Aussie R3R Roadster VIN SMTTLC0235F669084
A 2016 R3R SMTTLC0235G735566
A 2016 manufacture MY2017 R3R SMTTLC3735H775701

A 2014 MY2015 R3Touring SMTTLC3735F664720

Note the engines are identical but VIN code for model different. last 6 digits should still be close to R3Rs and RocketX

UK/Europe and Australia does not use USA check digit at all so coding is quite different except last 6 digits and SMT at start is UK (SM) manufacturer Triumph (T).

UK / Europe ISO Standard 3779 system

Vehicle descriptor section (VDS)
The fourth to ninth positions in the VIN are the vehicle descriptor section or VDS. This is used, according to local regulations, to identify the vehicle type, and may include information on the automobile platform used, the model, and the body style. Each manufacturer has a unique system for using this field.
I reckon the 6th character 'C' is Rocket
US/Canada and Australia 6th, 7th, 8th code characters are the model type and fairly sure the 9th digit '3' is the number of engine cylinders while 10th digit '5' is probably shaft drive.
C00 = ROCKET III C01 = ROCKET III CLASSIC C02 - ROCKET III + ABS C05 = ROCKET III TOURING C06 = ROCKET III TOURING & AB

Vehicle identifier section (VIS)
The 10th to 17th positions are used as the 'vehicle identifier section' (VIS). This is used by the manufacturer to identify the individual vehicle in question. USA/Canada 10th is year, UK/Europe 11th is year. For Triumph motorcycles 12th-17th is a sequential 6 digit number.

Your 11th character, the digit 6, is 2006 model year in UK / Europe ISO Standard 3779 system used in Europe and many other parts of the world. Mine is A for 2010.

Date year code is the 10th character for USA / Canada FMVSS 115, Part 565 system.

This character can be either a digit or an Alpha character

Code = Year
A = 1980 L = 1990 Y = 2000 A = 2010 L = 2020 Y = 2030
B = 1981 M = 1991 1 = 2001 B = 2011 M = 2021 1 = 2031
C = 1982 N = 1992 2 = 2002 C = 2012 N = 2022 2 = 2032
D = 1983 P = 1993 3 = 2003 D = 2013 P = 2023 3 = 2033
E = 1984 R = 1994 4 = 2004 E = 2014 R = 2024 4 = 2034
F = 1985 S = 1995 5 = 2005 F = 2015 S = 2025 5 = 2035
G = 1986 T = 1996 6 = 2006 G = 2016 T = 2026 6 = 2036
H = 1987 V = 1997 7 = 2007 H = 2017 V = 2027 7 = 2037
J = 1988 W = 1998 8 = 2008 J = 2018 W = 2028 8 = 2038
K = 1989 X = 1999 9 = 2009 K = 2019 X = 2029 9 = 2039
 
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tripX

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Adelaide South Australia
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2008 clasic
You need to be a little more specific. The seller's details are public on Gumtree where they have been a member for 6 years and do not appear to be hiding.

If you were going to buy at what price and did you try a PPSR search with the rego number?
Needs VIN or chassis number. Only $2 on Federal Government website REVs check | PPSR

2015 Triumph Rocket X 2300cc Limited Edition 283/500 | Motorcycles | Gumtree Australia Port Lincoln Area - Port Lincoln | 1220962231

It has been re-registered and 3rd part personal insurance until 17 Jan 2020 after being renewed since expiring 15/08/2019.

If it is a Rocket X it may be able to find the rest of the VIN

Check Registration Expiry Date
Plate Type ALPHANUMERIC
Plate Number S68AWP
Make TRIUMPH
Body Type SOLO
Primary Colour BLACK
VIN **************4544
They are all 17 character codes
S M T T L C 0 2 3 5 F 6 X 4544 where 'F' the 11th character is 2015, 6 from other Aussie 2015 R3R VINs and 'X', the 13th character is likely to be a 6 or 7 too even though serial numbers are not necessarily batch date related.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

CTP Insurer SGIC
Expiry Date 17/01/2020


My Australian VIN for 2010 model (A) Roadster with ABS with a Dec 2009 manufacturing date.
2015 Model year code for 11th character is 'F'
S M T T L C 0 2 3 5 A 4 3 2 2 6 0
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

A R3R 2014 manufacture SMTTLC0235E644001
And another 2015 Aussie R3R Roadster VIN SMTTLC0235F669084
A 2016 R3R SMTTLC0235G735566
A 2016 manufacture MY2017 R3R SMTTLC3735H775701

A 2014 MY2015 R3Touring SMTTLC3735F664720

Note the engines are identical but VIN code for model different. last 6 digits should still be close to R3Rs and RocketX

UK/Europe and Australia does not use USA check digit at all so coding is quite different except last 6 digits and SMT at start is UK (SM) manufacturer Triumph (T).

UK / Europe ISO Standard 3779 system

Vehicle descriptor section (VDS)
The fourth to ninth positions in the VIN are the vehicle descriptor section or VDS. This is used, according to local regulations, to identify the vehicle type, and may include information on the automobile platform used, the model, and the body style. Each manufacturer has a unique system for using this field.
I reckon the 6th character 'C' is Rocket
US/Canada and Australia 6th, 7th, 8th code characters are the model type and fairly sure the 9th digit '3' is the number of engine cylinders while 10th digit '5' is probably shaft drive.
C00 = ROCKET III C01 = ROCKET III CLASSIC C02 - ROCKET III + ABS C05 = ROCKET III TOURING C06 = ROCKET III TOURING & AB

Vehicle identifier section (VIS)
The 10th to 17th positions are used as the 'vehicle identifier section' (VIS). This is used by the manufacturer to identify the individual vehicle in question. USA/Canada 10th is year, UK/Europe 11th is year. For Triumph motorcycles 12th-17th is a sequential 6 digit number.

Your 11th character, the digit 6, is 2006 model year in UK / Europe ISO Standard 3779 system used in Europe and many other parts of the world. Mine is A for 2010.

Date year code is the 10th character for USA / Canada FMVSS 115, Part 565 system.

This character can be either a digit or an Alpha character

Code = Year
A = 1980 L = 1990 Y = 2000 A = 2010 L = 2020 Y = 2030
B = 1981 M = 1991 1 = 2001 B = 2011 M = 2021 1 = 2031
C = 1982 N = 1992 2 = 2002 C = 2012 N = 2022 2 = 2032
D = 1983 P = 1993 3 = 2003 D = 2013 P = 2023 3 = 2033
E = 1984 R = 1994 4 = 2004 E = 2014 R = 2024 4 = 2034
F = 1985 S = 1995 5 = 2005 F = 2015 S = 2025 5 = 2035
G = 1986 T = 1996 6 = 2006 G = 2016 T = 2026 6 = 2036
H = 1987 V = 1997 7 = 2007 H = 2017 V = 2027 7 = 2037
J = 1988 W = 1998 8 = 2008 J = 2018 W = 2028 8 = 2038
K = 1989 X = 1999 9 = 2009 K = 2019 X = 2029 9 = 2039
What is your VIN @sonny or any other RocketX owners?
Good you know the bike then . The seller wanted cash on a financed bike. it's not his bike to sell. If he was honest he could explain the situation and would have gone to the bank to finalise the deal with him.Hey it's a nice bike at a good price been on for 19weeks wonder why
The phone line makes people 10 feet tall.
 

Ishrub

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Good you know the bike then . The seller wanted cash on a financed bike. it's not his bike to sell. If he was honest he could explain the situation and would have gone to the bank to finalise the deal with him.Hey it's a nice bike at a good price been on for 19weeks wonder why
The phone line makes people 10 feet tall.
So do you have the VIN to confirm it is financed and collateral security or did he admit it?

If so what is the VIN?
 
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