Yes to Toe/heel shift lever

If I scope, what do I look for? Being an intermittent problem (for 3 summers) I know the spring is there.

When that happens, basically there is no "feel" the lever completely bottoms out (travels all the way with no clicking) doesn't matter how hard I push. I let go of the clutch and try again and again as I brake. Eventually it works until the next time ... hours later

How hard is it to change the gear change return spring?
If I take the front engine cover off, Do I need a new seal?
Look to see if the spring is still hooked between two points like below if you're using the scope
DetentSpringInspection.jpg


Oh and yes you change it by pulling the front cover and clutch basket
 
...and yes you'll need a front engine cover gasket...spring runs about $5 and the gasket is about $20 I think???
 
Finally got my parts in today, will get started tomorrow and update the results

Can I remove the detent arm/shaft/spring from the front or stuff will fall into the transmission?
 
On my roadster there's an E clip that secures the shaft inside the transmission. You MIGHT be able to get to it by removing the sump and unbolting the shifter linkage and removing the clip...you'd need to elevate the bike AND be able to get underneath it at the same time. Tricky.
 
Ok just so you know my opinion which is not a expert opinion. but if you have a problem and not sure if its is the detent spring or internal check the detent spring first. I have seen people pull the motor just to find out it is the detent spring in which you do not have to pull the motor. if it is not the detent spring well then you have to pull the motor and you will have about 25% or more done already. Your time wrench as much as you want. But I can do the detent spring without dropping the oil.
 
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Ok just so you know my opinion which is not a expert opinion. but if you have a problem and not sure if its is the detent spring or internal check the detent spring first. I have see people pull the motor just to find out it is the detent spring in which you do not have to pull the motor. if it is not the detent spring well then you have to pull the motor and you will have about 25% or more done already. Your time wrench as much as you want. But I can do the detent spring without dropping the oil.

I would agree with you. In this case it's an intermittent problem that occurs once a week. I wont know if it was fixed or not only after the bike it back together.
 
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