I think a point lot of people miss is where and how you ride, some people don't use thier engine braking enough, some live in the city and are in stop start traffic therefore using them all the time, some in the country may use them very little because of longer distance between needing to stop and also if you are running a darkside you will be able to brake harder with the back brake without getting in uncontrolled slides
 
Physics 101.

Fork dive on rear brakes too. The fork dive is caused by a weight shift when either brake is applied. The shift puts more weight forward due to change in momentum. Try hitting just the rear and see if the front doesn't drop and steering get heavy. The real problem occurs as weight is removed from the rear tire, reducing friction coefficients of the tire to pavement. When the rear locks up that magical moment is the point where friction cannot overcome momentum. Using the front brake alone shifts the weight too, but because the weight is driving forward the friction coefficient increases with the braking force applied. Don't believe that? Watch the bozo's doing stoppies and ask yourself how much traction the rear tire has 3 feet in the sky.

Rear pad wear is proportional to usage. Use it alot, wear it out fast. Use it never and it stays like new.

End of lesson.:D
 
Physics 101.

Fork dive on rear brakes too. The fork dive is caused by a weight shift when either brake is applied. The shift puts more weight forward due to change in momentum. Try hitting just the rear and see if the front doesn't drop and steering get heavy. The real problem occurs as weight is removed from the rear tire, reducing friction coefficients of the tire to pavement. When the rear locks up that magical moment is the point where friction cannot overcome momentum. Using the front brake alone shifts the weight too, but because the weight is driving forward the friction coefficient increases with the braking force applied. Don't believe that? Watch the bozo's doing stoppies and ask yourself how much traction the rear tire has 3 feet in the sky.

Rear pad wear is proportional to usage. Use it alot, wear it out fast. Use it never and it stays like new.

End of lesson.:D
or try a few bike racing lessons and find out why racers hardly ever use the rear brake
even when not racing these lessons teaches how to use brakes front and rear.
should be mandatory for people buying motorcycles. there is so much misconceptions and poor braking knowledge out there .
 
teaches how to use brakes front and rear.
should be mandatory for people buying motorcycles. there is so much misconceptions and poor braking knowledge out there


It is in the state of Florida, we teach it in the BRC course which you need to complete in order to get your motorcycle license.
 
Have a little over 30,000 on my rocket still on same brake pads. I took off the rear pads and examined them was going to change looked at them look at new put old pads back on, I do a lot of gearing down guess I drove a truck too many years but the brakes on a rocket will send you over the windshield if you really sit down on them.
 
I'm on my 4th set of rears now on the '08 with 16,000 miles, so I'm not getting much more. They are so easy to replace that I just don't even concern myself with it, that and they come paper thin out of the box as well. (must be made by Metzler) :rolleyes: LOL

I have 16000 miles on my 08 as well, I replaced mine for the first time yesterday
 
Pad wear directly relates to how you brake, how hard and how much you anticipate stops.

If you use the rear brake almost exclusively, your pads won't last long because just like a car, 70% of the braking power is the front end, not the rear...

And Britman, my pad sets are cheaper than Dennis Kirk....:D
 
about the change my back pads after 24,000 klm (14,912.90861 miles) but about 6,000klm of that was towing my 450kg (992lbs 1.283oz) camper trailer which doesn't have brakes (yet) up and down some mountain passes so it's fair to say they have last quite well:)

and yes Flips pad's are the cheapest Good Quality Pads I have found world wide in fact I will be ordering another set of rears this week so I have set on the shelf his oilfilters also are great value wonder if that's going to help for a special radiator screen I am going to ask him to make?:D
 
So Far So Good

I installed another set of the EBC's organic/kelvar (sorry Flipper that's all I use) and they seem to be fine. I racked up a few miles this weekend trying to get the Avon's scuffed in and there is no brake dust or any indication of excessive wear along with a great pedal. I am sorry to say most of my riding is back and forth to work in an urban setting so there is allot of stop and go. (I really would like to know what happened to the days of kids walking to a central bus stop? I get behind a school bus most mornings and it stops at every **** street corner.) I sincerely believe I either got a defective set initially or they just didn't get seated correctly when I installed them.
 
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