Overpriced Motorcycles or What

I don't post much but you guys are cracking me up! Paying for pub? Indian has em beat? Pretty delusional stuff here, but not exclusive to this forum by any means. Harley doesn't have to pay for pub. Ever. Every MC forum in the world, including this one, gives them all the pub they need! I can go to any forum and there is ALWAYS someone crying in their beer about Harley. They get plenty of pub, and free too! Courtesy of all the whiners in MC land. As for Indian? Indian will have them beat when they sell more motorcycles then Harley. That will be never in my estimation. Indian has a much better chance of going the way of Victory. Remember that Victory had Harley beat too.......right up until they went belly up. Daytona Beach PD went to Victory for their Motors Division bikes. They are not so happy with their choice now. If anyone has the balls to admit it, Harley nailed this game long ago. They know what their customers want and meet their needs. Period. End of story. Everyone else is playing catch-up, and will continue to play it. Trying to beat Harley at the game they invented is going to end in failure. Book it. I can say that I actually rented a new Harley and went in skeptical as hell. I came out impressed as hell. The new ones are a finished product in every sense of the word. Add in dealers every 2 blocks and plenty of aftermarket, and there it is folks. That is why they sell 10 to 20 times more bikes than everyone else. My Rocket is a great bike, but when the two closest dealers closed up shop, it didn't make me smile. Mail ordering parts sucks, and if I need warranty work, I have to go 90 miles to get it. I am not trading the Rocket, but there are certainly many reasons to go with Harley. Now carry on the bashing. Harley will appreciate it!
 

My 2016 Indian roadmaster has all that
Except for the new ride command sytem that came out in 2017.

I paid 26K, The elite for 32K has a killer paint job and the ride command system, but I'm not sure if that justifies the difference in price
 


I visit most dealers in Tulsa just to see what is new, including the Harley dealer, the multi brand dealers always have a bunch of people rooming around the Honda dealer same way, BMW is a very lonely place and Harley has the occacional customer walking in, bear in mind this is during week days, will have to start visiting on weekends to see if there is a difference
 
I have no problem with the Motor Company itself. If someone is willing to pay the price they ask, good on em. I know if someone offered me twice the pay for what I do, I'd certainly take it.
What I do take issue with is the attitude of a small percentage of the owners, and definitely the sales people. Seems every time I'm in a dealership and the sales person asks which bike I want, I politely say that I'm just looking today, I already have a bike. When they ask what I ride, it always seems to get the same response, why don't you get a real bike? (Not what I consider a professional comment to make to a potential customer) So I smile and say, if you have a bike in here that will outrun mine, I'll buy it. They point at the VROD, and I say grab a helmet and meet me outside. Sadly none have yet.
 
THE young guys dont like the Indians they attract the older riders with the retro styling so they will have to make some sportiy models with better performance to attract the younger riders .
 
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I just ask them if they have any bikes that are American made for sale instead of the Chinese knocks offs on the showroom floor. May be an American company but most of the bikes is made elsewhere.
 
My point was that the full dresser cruisers are way overpriced for what they offer compared to cars. I can never comprehend $44K Canadian for a motorcycle when a fully loaded technological marvel of a car with a tristar badge costs 48K.
 
100% agree, with all the goodies listed they still are heavily overpriced. All the extra electronics and USB ports cost a fragment of those 15-20k extra charge. And they actually do age about 10x quicker than solid build old school motorcycle.. But this is beyond one brand, works across the market. People no longer ride 300k miles on their 35.000$ bikes, and vendors know it. This revolution came to cars two decades earlier, now it is here for us, bikers. Downsize, expense, waste, recycle.

As HD, I would completely skip all this **** with buying Ducati or anyone else. Keep HD evolutionary, milk the cruiser segment with evolution of the V twin until it makes money, and put money into hig tech electric motorbikes. Electric Buell? Shut up and take my money..