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[R3T-Too]

As speeds increase forces increase in an exponential manner, so MPG will drop sharply as MPH increase. I get about 40-45 ish cruising at 70mph, but around town it's terrible, like 20-25 depending on how much I play on a given tank of gas.

For a long roadtrip I see no reason I couldn't get 200 miles per tank, and that equates to around 3 hours between fill-ups. By that time I am ready for a break, physically and mentally so it works out well imho. I would hate to have a 5 hour endurance per tank, then I feel like I'm quitting and breaking before I should need to.

I usually run between 75 & 80 on my commute with a few extra twists of the wrist and usually refuel Mondays and Thursdays.
Long road trips around here will put you in a lot of 75 mph zones. At those speeds I get around 30 mpg X 5 gallon refuel interval which gives me about 150 miles per tank or a little over 2 hours.

I'm really surprised at the disparity of MPG between the big barn door that's my Voyager & my Rocket @ highway speeds.
I used to chalk it up to higher RPMs at those speeds, but maybe that barn door cuts through the wind a little better than I thought.

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Triumph could redesign the trans mission 5th gear to make it an overdrive ratio. Starting with the 2017 bikes. The engineers can make it happen. The reason 5th gear is where it is now is because 10 years ago Triumph wanted to the fasted 60 to 80 mph times. Well I think there are some faster than that now. So it is time for Triumph to let go of that thought and set the bike up the way the customers want it.

 

[1olbull]

Nice work, but there is no account for real world environment which has a HUGE affect.
10 mph in 5th at 308 RPM????

 

[Steel]

I remember years ago on the Suzuki Intruder forum, somebody figured out that the transmission on the VS1400 and the LC1500 shared a few parts. And by taking the 4th driven, 5th driven, and 5th gear from the 1500, and putting it in the 1400, that it worked. It would drop the rpms 250 @ 70 mph.

So I'm sure some engineer at Triumph could figure out how to make 5th gear just a little taller if they really wanted.

 

[1olbull]

As speeds increase forces increase in an exponential manner, so MPG will drop sharply as MPH increase. I get about 40-45 ish cruising at 70mph, but around town it's terrible, like 20-25 depending on how much I play on a given tank of gas.

For a long roadtrip I see no reason I couldn't get 200 miles per tank, and that equates to around 3 hours between fill-ups. By that time I am ready for a break, physically and mentally so it works out well imho. I would hate to have a 5 hour endurance per tank, then I feel like I'm quitting and breaking before I should need to.


If ANYTHING changed with gearing, I would like to be a few percent taller gearing across the entire range of gears. 1st Gear should be capable of 60mph as the Rocket is delivered, it can be done by raising the Redline to 6700, but the 0-60mph would be much better for publications/tests by magazines if the 0-60 were doable in 1 gear on the stock bike.

I've gotten over 200 per tank several times - by accident while sweating bullets!
I usually get around 35 mpg out on the road.

 

[warp9.9]

Triumph could redesign the trans mission 5th gear to make it an overdrive ratio. Starting with the 2017 bikes. The engineers can make it happen. The reason 5th gear is where it is now is because 10 years ago Triumph wanted to the fasted 60 to 80 mph times. Well I think there are some faster than that now. So it is time for Triumph to let go of that thought and set the bike up the way the customers want it.

Easily said by people who know nothing about gear manufacturing especially when you can not change center to center distance or the Daimetral Pitch (proportional tooth size). Because it is metric it will me a Module pitch but the calculations are still the same just metric verses English standard

 

[Loonitick]

On my way back last autumn I had a predicted range of near 650 km for a while until I lost the traffic in the way (at which point it immediately plummeted )

 

[R3T-Too]

Nice work, but there is no account for real world environment which has a HUGE affect.
10 mph in 5th at 308 RPM????

Absolutely!
That's just crunching the numbers as published.
Probably see a variation from calculated tire diameter of a 180/70-16 (81.43") to actual rubber on the road too.

BTW, someone else did the work, I just plugged the #s in.

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Easily said by people who know nothing about gear manufacturing especially when you can not change center to center distance or the Daimetral Pitch (proportional tooth size). Because it is metric it will me a Module pitch but the calculations are still the same just metric verses English standard

Warp I think you missed my point. Not you or I change what we already have, but Triumph re-engineer the entire transmission. Certainly they are capable of doing that.

 

[cusso ken]

When I am ready to replace my 2011 R3T with a new bike "if" the R3T is still available I would buy another one, and if it is identical to my current one all the better ,I would just do the minor changes that I have done on my current one Tors, Cross over pipe K&N filter in OEM air box and a good remap and professional Dyno tune ,the gearing suits my riding requirements and my self imposed 160KPH speed limit the 5th gear is perfect for two up cruising at 120 KPH (just over our almost National speed limit) at that speed the bike eats up the miles and is under stressed as is the rider and pillion, no need to change a perfect package, if the bike didn't suit me I would get rid of it.