It's dumb question time

[UNCLE JESSE]

Okay for all of those dark side riders, I have had the occasion of having to apply brakes real hard noticed the rear tire seems to slide easy might just be my heavy foot but just curious what anybody else has experienced appears that nobody checks their taillights or puts air in the tires anymore. I guess is just too complicated

 

[HansO]

Okay for all of those dark side riders, I have had the occasion of having to apply brakes real hard noticed the rear tire seems to slide easy might just be my heavy foot but just curious what anybody else has experienced appears that nobody checks their taillights or puts air in the tires anymore. I guess is just too complicated

they will slide in wet but takes a lot more brake pedal pressure but they don't kick out anywhere as easy like the bike tyre did it all comes down to balanced braking

 

[xhdskip]

yep, I'm with HansO on this one.
I can make it slide, but in general, it's not gonna lock up as easy as my metz did.

 

[laraza]

+1 original Metz locked up and got spat off breaking a few bones. Darkside feels much more under control

 

[ewswartze]

I run a ds riken and have the triumph floorboard kit installed. The floorboard kit came with new brake and shift levers. The heel - toe shift lever is satisfactory but the brake lever is fitted with a "platform" in lieu of the pedal that was stock. I find a micro touch to be more unlikely with the gargantuan size of that brake lever. I will eventually alter either the stock brake lever angle or the floorboard platform lever to be smaller. A micro touch is much easier to accomplish with a reasonably sized brake lever such as the stockie lever. For me it has less to do with the tire (and I've had mt and ds) and more to do with the oversized lever.

 

[tdragger]

To tag on to swatze's note, the angle of the brake lever makes a huge difference. When I first switched over to floorboards, I could barely reach the brake lever much less have any kind of touch with it. After adjusting it to a much lower lever, it is a lot easier to control.

I also run a Riken and have only once even had the hint of the rear end locking up. When I hit the rear brake, the beast stops NOW!!

Prior to going darkside, the Metz would lock up and slide out if you even thought about using the rear brake. I consider the Metz a safety hazard, imho.

 

[HansO]

It's all about adjusting thing so they suit you, you should be able to keep heal on foot boards while applying brakes

 

[atomsplitter]

Physics make the rear slide. When you hit the rear brake the front dives even if you aren't using the front brake. That because the weight bias shifts forward as the bike decelerates. This reduces the load on the tire so that the pedal pressure required to get to lock is less the harder you push the pedal. Sport bikes can shift enough weight under hard braking to lift the rear wheel off the pavement. The geometry of the Rocket prevents that, but the load loss to the friction coefficient is sufficient to make the rear tire act like its coated in grease. Tire choice is wholly irrelevant to the physics, the difference is in stability, not if you can lock it up.

Bottom line use both brakes and more front than rear in all cases. (if you didn't notice the front has twice the brakes as the rear, now you know why).

 

[Binnsy]

No Comment !

 

[CanberraR3]

Looks like a good thing he's got reverse and all wheel drive. He does, doesn't he?
WTF happened? Is he OK?