Perhaps I see things different to you (actually I know I do) it's just good manners to introduce yourself to someone before asking anyone , anywhere for assistance. Got nothing to do with a 'rule book' .. it's just common sense. I have apologised to Crustey for my smartass response to his initial request. Tell you what, to be honest we have only really had these problems since you and that BigBore turned up here. Most guys just seem to know how to conduct themselves and don't go out of their way to rub people up the wrong way.