Dobeck?

[snuffer]

I'm considering the Dobeck fuel management product. I'm curious to hear any positive or negative feedback. My bike is a 2010 R3 Roadster with TORS, other then that it's stock. What improvements would it make to my bike? Also, I'm no mechanic, how easy is it to install and tune correctly?

Thanks

 

[CanberraR3]

I have a Dobeck TFI on my bike. I think there are newer versions out there but I like this unit. I have TORS, triples, secondaries removed and a GIPro + ATRE. Dealer installed the TORS tune when the pipes were fitted and that has not been changed.

With these mods and that tune the bike ran OK but was clearly way too lean with lots of decal popping. I didn't want to mess with tunes so my options were a PCIII and dyno or the Dobeck for half the price and no need for a dyno. PCV + AT would seem far superior to both but at a cost and wasn't an option at the time.

Dobeck was quite simple to install with clear instructions. Basically you unplug the connectors on each throttle body and plug the Dobeck in (from memory). I found tuning it a bit hit and miss but the instructions give you a pretty good starting point and I got it sorted pretty quickly - 2, maybe 3 goes at it. Bike runs very smooth, starts easily, idles evenly, has not decal popping, has more than enough power and gives reasonable fuel economy. I just have to turn a screw to get more oomph (and use more fuel) or back it off a little. It really is like the old days with a carby and butt (and ear) dyno, if you know what I mean.

I wouldn't say the Dobeck gives you more power, per se, but it does give you more correct fuelling for your set-up and therefore the bike will run better and closer to the full potential of your mods. Plus if you later decide to change anything, exhaust, intake etc, you can easily adjust for those without messing with anything else. You could get it tuned optimally on a dyno as well but I reckon I've got it so close to running as well as it can I don't need to spend that money or risk it not running as smoothly or starting as easily etc.

So there you go. I have no doubt you can get a more precise outcome (but not necessarily better) with a PCV + AT and/or a dyno or by fiddling around with different tunes. But the Dobeck is simple and didn't cost a lot and I'm very happy with the results. Just depends what you want.

 

[HansO]

As Richard (canberraR3) said and few others on can tell you the Dobec is easy to use and bloody good value at around half the price of the PCV +AT and I was almost going to buy one myself but after researching the options found it to be worth the extra cost to go to the PCV + AT.
Now I'm not trying to change your mind but with the Dobec if you make changes to any thing on your bike ,exhaust ,airfilteration etc you will need to readjust it the PCV + AT will adjust itself to whatever changes you make and works by sampling the exhaust gases 196 times a second and adjust the mixture there and then also allows for changes in altitude. I f per chance you do decide to go the PCV + AT I have a Killier map that I created for it and many are now using.
But as I said I am not trying to change your mind.
Oh and unless you go down the GiPro route to sort your ingnition map and secondaries it is very simple to use TuneECU to correct all those other little things

 

[xhdskip]

I've got the Dobeck.
Mines the next generation after Canberra's.
No screwdriver needed.
It's all push button.
His instructions were spot on,
mine lives under the seat on top of what use to be the air box.
Very easy to install, plug and play unit.
The instructions aren't very clear ,
but then they don't need to be,
as it's so simple.
3 buttons.
the mode button, the add fuel button, the subtract fuel button.
you've got leds to show you whether you're running rich or lean
in whatever "mode" you're looking to change.
There's a total of 3 modes.
WOT, idle, and cruise,
you can also change the switch points of how fast the fuel
"changes" from one mode to the other.
So a total of 6 modes counting the switch points.
Sounds complicated, but everybody knows,
If I can do it, anybody can.
It really is much simpler than it sounds.
If ya don't like the way it's cruising for instance,
stop, pull over, push the mode button and add or subtract fuel.
Get on and ride it again.
I like mine.
They also offer a veteran discount if that applies.

 

[snuffer]

Time to show my ignorance... I assume you have to raise the tank and remove the air plenum to install it, is that correct? If not, what dis-assembly is required to install it?

Thanks

 

[CanberraR3]

To be honest, I don't recall but by the time I installed it I already had triples. I can say for absolute certainty that you DO NOT WANT TO PUTTING THAT AIR PLENUM BACK ON ONCE IT'S OFF. If you have to remove it it I'd STRONGLY recommend installing triples - for almost any reason you can think of.

 

[HansO]

Time to show my ignorance... I assume you have to raise the tank and remove the air plenum to install it, is that correct? If not, what dis-assembly is required to install it?

Thanks

Simple answer YES the plugs are up there and Richard is dead right, Get Triples