Cam Jig Tool - Need?

Yea' I have your drawings filed Scott, but I build/make stuff all day, so when it comes time for making stuff for me, after hours ..... Well I just went and bought the tool.

Tho' I do still make some stuff for me :D
 
I have been afraid of taking the cams out because torqueing the cam ladder bolts back in correctly seams to be impossible for a few positions as they are under the frame tubes. My torque wrenches won't fit under the frame to do it correctly. The only way I can see to do it is to take the engine out of the frame.

Do any of you guys have a technique that can re-torque the cam ladder bolts while still in the frame ... Standard and Roadster that is ?
 
I've got one in Virginia that you can borrow in a couple weeks if you haven't sorted it out yet! I'm away on a business trip til the 15th.

Thanks very much, but I am already indebted to another member who lent me the tool. Very nice of you to offer.
 
I have been afraid of taking the cams out because torqueing the cam ladder bolts back in correctly seams to be impossible for a few positions as they are under the frame tubes. My torque wrenches won't fit under the frame to do it correctly. The only way I can see to do it is to take the engine out of the frame.

Do any of you guys have a technique that can re-torque the cam ladder bolts while still in the frame ... Standard and Roadster that is ?

I have a small China Freight torque that fits in there. It's been awhile, it seems like there is one you have to do the "old school" common sense way.
 
I have been afraid of taking the cams out because torqueing the cam ladder bolts back in correctly seams to be impossible for a few positions as they are under the frame tubes. My torque wrenches won't fit under the frame to do it correctly. The only way I can see to do it is to take the engine out of the frame.

Do any of you guys have a technique that can re-torque the cam ladder bolts while still in the frame ... Standard and Roadster that is ?

Idaho- I'd be very surprised if someone has a method of torquing all the ladder bolts (valve cover too). I torqued those I could and did the rest by feel by slightly untightening a properly torqued bolt, retightening with another tool, then checking it with the torque wrench for accuracy. Using that same pressure, yeah not perfect, I tightened those bolts that had minimal clearance. A standard socket and ratchet wouldn't fit in all cases, so I also used a couple of specialty tools (home depot) that work well in tight spaces. I share your concern, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.....
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My experience - I finished swapping out a shim yesterday. Let me just say that I am ordering that specialty tool for times when you need to pull the camshaft. I will also make one of the tools Rocket Scientist designed for those times when you just need to change a shim or two. My mechanical abilities were getting questioned by about the 10th try with the specialty tool trying to get the timing right. WTF? Afterwards, I searched the forums and found that other people have had troubles with that too, so I didn't feel quite as bad. I think if you have some chain stretch that it's difficult to get the gears lined up right. Afterwards, I threw away my print out of Warp's specs on this tool and my plan to make one- I am not a "journeyman tool maker" and can imagine the trouble you'd have if you were off just a mm in your recreation of that tool. My advice is to buy the **** thing, which I am ordering now.

Thanks to everyone on this forum for sharing your mechanical expertise and for your "emotional support." ;)
 
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Idaho- I'd be very surprised if someone has a method of torquing all the ladder bolts (valve cover too). I torqued those I could and did the rest by feel by slightly untightening a properly torqued bolt, retightening with another tool, then checking it with the torque wrench for accuracy. Using that same pressure, yeah not perfect, I tightened those bolts that had minimal clearance. A standard socket and ratchet wouldn't fit in all cases, so I also used a couple of specialty tools (home depot) that work well in tight spaces. I share your concern, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.....
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My experience - I finished swapping out a shim yesterday. Let me just say that I am ordering that specialty tool for times when you need to pull the camshaft. I will also make one of the tools Rocket Scientist designed for those times when you just need to change a shim or two. My mechanical abilities were getting questioned by about the 10th try with the specialty tool trying to get the timing right. WTF? Afterwards, I searched the forums and found that other people have had troubles with that too, so I didn't feel quite as bad. I think if you have some chain stretch that it's difficult to get the gears lined up right. Afterwards, I threw away my print out of Warp's specs on this tool and my plan to make one- I am not a "journeyman tool maker" and can imagine the trouble you'd have if you were off just a mm in your recreation of that tool. My advice is to buy the **** thing, which I am ordering now.

Thanks to everyone on this forum for sharing your mechanical expertise and for your "emotional support." ;)

What size are those hex and torks bits that you have to used? That an interesting hex specialty bit, what do they call those?
 
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@Journeyman28778 When you make the shim tool, consider making three: the first will be the one on which you learn, and can admire for a while and discard. The second and third will be for you and me . . . and keep track of your materials -- will reimburse you a fair price.

What say you ?

And @Idaho Red Rocket 3 This is not nearly as daunting as you fear.

The torque values are low, and I used a universal joint, treating all the bolts the same.

Remember the top of the engine is offset to the right, and the ladder bolts are in the middle and fairly accessible. The only two that are a challenge are the two most right front. Universal joint.
 
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