3 fold problem - HELP

[Grendel]

hi
took another look at your picture and it looks like some one removed the fuse and tried to bypass it with that blue connector. i don't believe that connecter will handle the current. as a matter of fact that might be your problem.
to start at the beginning these r3's had a problem with the headlights causing problems like ignition switch going bad,bad fuses,and spreading the terminals (because of the heat) where the fuses connect.
judging by that blue connecter they did not know what they where doing IF that is the way they by passed that fuse.
why don't you try to put a 20 amp fuse into that space then see if lights come on when the key is turned on and try to start.
try to get a better picture of where the wires go from the blue connector.
herman

Thanks for taking a look and offering suggestions! I actually stopped and picked up some 20A fuses last night on my way home and thought I would see if there was a bad fuse. I looked at my fusebox cover and according to it's layout, my headlight fuse is the one on the top left next to the 30A fuses and the one that is empty is marked as empty. I don't know why my fusebox layout would be different, but that is what it says.
I had a brain fart too. I MEANT to pop a fuse into the empty slot just to see if it made a difference and I forgot. I guess when I saw the "empty" label the thought just flew out of my head, lol.

 

[Grendel]

I think something is wrong with the fuses too.
Just took a couple of pics of mine, one with the 20 amp fuse and one without and both look different to the OP pics. As for the blue connector it is connected to the negative side of the battery.





Advise: get yourself an EB kit AND TAKE IT TO AN AUTO ELECTRICIAN.
An Auto electrician may even come to you.

Love your new Avatar there Mittzy!

Yeah, my fuse layout is quite different from yours. I just responded to Turbo saying that I looked at the layout pattern on the back of the fusebox and my headlight fuse is the top left next to the 30A fuses. I don't know why it is different, but it is what it is.
I have ordered an EB kit, though it looks like a slow delivery. I'll have it for a later date whenever it comes in.
My brother is coming to help me load up the bike tonight and take it to a good bike mechanic tomorrow. I spoke with the guy yesterday about the issue and he is very familiar with the Rockets so I feel pretty good about having him take a look. I'd love to have found and fixed the cause myself, but I feel like I have learned a little bit along the way, so my time has not been wasted.

 

[HansO]

Advise: get yourself an EB kit AND TAKE IT TO AN AUTO ELECTRICIAN.
An Auto electrician may even come to you.

Better advise you could not ask for I have had mate (not a Rocket owner) bring his bike over a couple of years ago complaining of it running poorly I found wires that had merely been twisted together and a little bit of tape on some of them ..... wait for it!!!! ... this had been done by a mechanic in a shop, Not All Mechanics know what they are doing when it comes to the Electronics in a bike.

 

[budman]

you really need to take the switch off and take it apart to see if the wires came off or not..

 

[TURBO200R4]

Thanks for taking a look and offering suggestions! I actually stopped and picked up some 20A fuses last night on my way home and thought I would see if there was a bad fuse. I looked at my fusebox cover and according to it's layout, my headlight fuse is the one on the top left next to the 30A fuses and the one that is empty is marked as empty. I don't know why my fusebox layout would be different, but that is what it says.
I had a brain fart too. I MEANT to pop a fuse into the empty slot just to see if it made a difference and I forgot. I guess when I saw the "empty" label the thought just flew out of my head, lol.

thanks for answering all of our questions. its been a pleasure. i have now learned that the late roadster is wired a little different
than the rest. probably so you don"t have starting problems
it was a good day to ride so i thought i would bring my 07 to work. it would not start so now i get to practice on my own.
herman

 

[Grendel]

thanks for answering all of our questions. its been a pleasure. i have now learned that the late roadster is wired a little different
than the rest. probably so you don"t have starting problems
it was a good day to ride so i thought i would bring my 07 to work. it would not start so now i get to practice on my own.
herman

Oh man! I hope your issue is simple, cheap, and painless!

 

[happyhenry]

the early bikes had a problem with all of the power going thru the ign switch,on ocassion the bike will not start and a clicking sound can be heard.[usally when yuo try to start the bike when someone is watching].there is a great thread by honker about "when your starter just goes click".my bike did this for a couple years the local dealer thru 1000 bucks at the problem then told me i would have to live with it. a relay piggy backed to the stock relay will allow power to the starter without going thru the ign switch.it has cured a persistant problem on my bike by removing the start load from the ign switch.also while i was under that side cover i added a relay to the headlight circuit,again relieving the ign switch the load.the headlights are way brighter.great mods that cost me less than 20 bucks,and solve a bunch of problems.

 

[TURBO200R4]

Hi
my rocket that wouldn't start is going to be a long story so i am going to open a new thread (my rocket won't start) in common issues.
herman

 

[Grendel]

Ongoing...

I thought I would throw a little update on here for any who are still interested. Last week I got the call that my bike was good to go. I went Wed to pick it up and they said that they just replaced the starter relay and she fired up. While I was glad that it was such a simple and cheap fix, I was a little perturbed because I had went to Napa and picked up a starter relay that didn't work. I guess I had a wrong part number or the guy at the counter just gave me the wrong one. (I took in the old one, but the replacement still wasn't right, even though it looked the same externally).

Anyway, I was going to update this thread last week, but I got very busy. So Saturday, I hopped on my bike to run some errands and...."click". Same issue. Again.

So now my bike is back in the shop and I have them looking for whatever the issue is that is causing the bike to chew up starter relays. On the bright side, I had ordered the Eastern Beaver kit and it came in Sat night, so I'll drop that off at the shop and just let them take care of that while they are in there.

 

[Grendel]

Hi
my rocket that wouldn't start is going to be a long story so i am going to open a new thread (my rocket won't start) in common issues.
herman

I'm very sorry to hear that Herman! Best of luck to you man!