I got rid of the Harley because, among other things, of it being loud, felt bad about waking my neighbors and others in some other neighborhoods along the way to work. I like the quietness of the stock set up because they can't hear me coming, I'm there...and then I'm gone and they don't know what happened as they never "heard" me coming....I like that. I wouldn't mind a little more rumble but I don't want to blast anyone either.