PCV/AT Issues..

[Dennsell]

Thats what they Do on the Dyno Stop tuning when good performance is obviouse

Fair Suck Of The Sav Mate

Fancy you knowing that Mitch....Im Impressed ..No****t..

Hell..... how do I get a printed read out from the PCv module.. DuH !!!

 

[Evil Mitch]

Fair Suck Of The Sav Mate

Fancy you knowing that Mitch....Im Impressed ..No****t..

Hell..... how do I get a printed read out from the PCv module.. DuH !!!

Just sayin Chief sometimes it's better to keep it simple and I heard that those grey rockets come out with a flat spot anyway lol


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[Dennsell]

Just sayin Chief sometimes it's better to keep it simple and I heard that those grey rockets come out with a flat spot anyway lol
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I know Mitch just kidding mate... It was just an out loud thought because you would only know shes good to go by the saddleometer or the tension on Ya G String

 

[HansO]

I have the same problem without the PCV & AT, but at higher throttle positions as in passing, as I let off the throttle she suddenly accelerates like the higher throttle position was the flat spot. Starting my PCV & AT installation tomorrow. Ready to experiment!

Rode the Harley to work today, first time she's been on the road for any length of time since I replaced the stator, rotor, battery and volt reg. She's running great but there's no comparison to the Rocket.

I have Pcv but I don't run Autotune instead I went with a custom dyno map and she runs sweet no flat spots no complaints. So I think I will keep it as is. Just like the dyno guy said the Auto tune can cause problems as well as corrections.


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ok guys I might just Have the solution looking at and having run Mitch's dyno map (Mitch while it is very smooth at 13.2 AFR you are missing out on more available in there, sorry mate but my map will bring out the beast in your bike you really should look at an AutoTune) his dyno guy had put 20% extra in the 0% throttle colum of his fuel map and also Curt (Bonecarver) Told me he had put 10% on advice he had heard so after a very lengthy discussion with a DynoJet tech the other night ( look out next phonebill) he said the same and said the auto tune could not work below 2% because of back flow pressure issues and by adding the 10 to 20% this should alleviate the flat spot and (as I have experienced) the snatchyness coming of a close throttle so I did some test runs yesterday and found with even just 10% from 1500rpm onwards in the 0% column a massive improvement..... Try it guys

 

[Evil Mitch]

ok guys I might just Have the solution looking at and having run Mitch's dyno map (Mitch while it is very smooth at 13.2 AFR you are missing out on more available in there, sorry mate but my map will bring out the beast in your bike you really should look at an AutoTune) his dyno guy had put 20% extra in the 0% throttle colum of his fuel map and also Curt (Bonecarver) Told me he had put 10% on advice he had heard so after a very lengthy discussion with a DynoJet tech the other night ( look out next phonebill) he said the same and said the auto tune could not work below 2% because of back flow pressure issues and by adding the 10 to 20% this should alleviate the flat spot and (as I have experienced) the snatchyness coming of a close throttle so I did some test runs yesterday and found with even just 10% from 1500rpm onwards in the 0% column a massive improvement..... Try it guys

I will but i will wait until everyone is happy i dont want to have to fiddle with anything if i change now and have issues its just a step backwards IMO it is on the list but not until im sure its worth the extra clams

 

[Evil Mitch]

And on top of that i havent really seen anyone else posting any dynosheets with triples and headers reaching my result less exceeding them so im happy with what i have
their is enough power for me and its smooth im not really into the seat of the pants method its hard to get a real feel through the entire rev range without being on a dyno .
we will see im still open to it but dont see a need to fix what isnt broken
my money will more than likely be saved for a second bike

 

[HansO]

I will but i will wait until everyone is happy i dont want to have to fiddle with anything if i change now and have issues its just a step backwards IMO it is on the list but not until im sure its worth the extra clams

Fair enought the crazy thing is that when you sent PVM tune to me my PCV would not acept it and only after talking to Dynojet Techo did I find out your dyno guy was useing a locked type map base so it would only load via his computer but on advice what I did was copy and paste your AFR table and Fuel table over to a Zero PVM map and I just turned off my Auto tune so as to not change it, It was smooth very smooth but just lacked the neck snaping change of character when you snap the throttle open a bit more>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Evil Mitch]

Fair enought the crazy thing is that when you sent PVM tune to me my PCV would not acept it and only after talking to Dynojet Techo did I find out your dyno guy was useing a locked type map base so it would only load via his computer but on advice what I did was copy and paste your AFR table and Fuel table over to a Zero PVM map and I just turned off my Auto tune so as to not change it, It was smooth very smooth but just lacked the neck snaping change of character when you snap the throttle open a bit more>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Can u send me your map with the changes u have made i will give autotune a go soon . i guess if i dont like it i can always disconnect . i am curious to try your map.
u did send it once before but i would rather not fiddle with it incase i mess up

 

[Dennsell]

ok guys I might just Have the solution looking at and having run Mitch's dyno map (Mitch while it is very smooth at 13.2 AFR you are missing out on more available in there, sorry mate but my map will bring out the beast in your bike you really should look at an AutoTune) his dyno guy had put 20% extra in the 0% throttle colum of his fuel map and also Curt (Bonecarver) Told me he had put 10% on advice he had heard so after a very lengthy discussion with a DynoJet tech the other night ( look out next phonebill) he said the same and said the auto tune could not work below 2% because of back flow pressure issues and by adding the 10 to 20% this should alleviate the flat spot and (as I have experienced) the snatchyness coming of a close throttle so I did some test runs yesterday and found with even just 10% from 1500rpm onwards in the 0% column a massive improvement..... Try it guys

I pressume you are advising here for Staintune system and not for TORs etc ??

 

[HansO]

Can u send me your map with the changes u have made i will give autotune a go soon . i guess if i dont like it i can always disconnect . i am curious to try your map.
u did send it once before but i would rather not fiddle with it incase i mess up

I do better seeing as you and I have same set up I will send the raw map with just the exta % in zero throttle colum and I will send you the map out of my bike with a fuel table that should be able to be run even with out you having the Auto Tune

I pressume you are advising here for Staintune system and not for TORs etc ??

no Dennis any one that is having a flat spot after cruising on a low throttle up to about 3000rpm on a light throttle the auto tune is not functioning of you drop below 2% throttle but therefore you are in the zero column (straving for fuel) but if you add even only 10 into that colum as described before it fix it