output shart bearing replacement info

[leigh_m_gardner]

HI guys
Contact leigh_m_gardner as he posted a great photo and blow by blow of changing this parts WITHOUT taking the big lump out on this site only a few months back. I think Leigh said he did it all in one long day (12hours). I need to do mine before I hit the road this spring.
Good luck Andy

Correct. Drop me a line if you got anything specific you want to ask.

Sent from SYDland

 

[Trirocket3]

G'Day Guys, I've just had the repair done, and the upgrade kit fitted on my 2007 Classic by Melbourne Triumph. (Peter Stevens)

I was pretty pissed that my bike has only done 10,960 Kms, (around 6500 miles) and even more that they're charging me $2204.70 to repair it, but they tell me that I'm only being charged for labour (60 bucks an hour) and fluids, so I guess it could have been worse? Cheers, Terry.

$1000 for fluids

 

[Micksan]

Going back together.

I have the bike pretrty welkl back together. Put the swing arm and final drive on yersterday. Having to take it slow because I am still trying to get over a bad case of Lung crud that knocked us on our ass. Anyhow slow but sure.
I got the engine back in the frame using a flat motorcyclelift. For a $60 Ebay item , it has paid for itself many times over .

 

[TerrysR3]

I can't help thinking that some Dealers are correctly named "Stealer's."

I wonder if in some cases Triumph are been wrongly accused with regards to warranty issues.. There are some out there that maybe just Rip you off and don't give a rats arse about customer service, $$$$$$$$$ eyes only.

If I was you TerryR3 I would be asking serious questions and contacting Triumph, it would be worth the effort I would think mate..is Peter Stevens a franchise ? we have one in Perth where I just bought my rear B/stone tyre, only because they where B/stone agent's.

Thanks mate, but sadly Peter Steven's in Melbourne is Triumph Australia, so there's no-one to complain to, unless I send a letter to Mr Bloor himself. I collected the bike on Saturday, and apart from them forgetting to tighten any of the mounting screws on the fuel tank, (it was rather disconcerting watching the front mounting screw undoing itself at 100 KPH on the Eastern Freeway) it seems to be OK now.

It looks like I've paid "full fare", even though I only sent it to Peter Steven's on the advice from their Service Manager, Rob Linton, that Triumph "might" repair it as a "Gooodwill Claim". Obviously Triumph have run out of goodwill, I even paid for the failed bearing! They did install the upgrade kit at their expense though, does anyone know what the upgrade kit actually contains? I'd like to know before I send any more abuse in Triumph's direction?

Anyway, money comes and money goes, so I'll recover. It's a nice day so I think I'll go for a ride. Cheers, Terry. ;D

 

[bopa54]

Output bearing failure

I have just had both the internal and external bearings go at 130 Kph on a major trip around Australia, noise was unbelievable, instant and scary 40kms from the nearest town. Finally got bike to Triumph dealer who quickly stripped bike down, diagnosis was bad both bearings had totally collapsed (exploded) the output shaft and gears were damaged. Some parts of both bearings were missing presumed travelling around engine internals somewhere and the crankcase were badly damaged internally, the whole area within the output housing was covered in a fine metal paste.
New crankcases / oil pump / output assembly and gaskets etc plus full rebuild to cost approx 10K, yes thats ten thousand dollars it would never be the same bike and I just cannot afford it. Not sure which direction to take next, secondhand engine? buy a wrecked R3? are they available?, not in a good head space right now.
RIP MY R3

 

[UNCLE JESSE]

If you can find you a crash some were without motor damage then remember to salvage all parts on your motor that are good your head and cams and eBay them out will be surprised how much money you can make a piece at a time best of luck

 

[TerrysR3]

I have just had both the internal and external bearings go at 130 Kph on a major trip around Australia, noise was unbelievable, instant and scary 40kms from the nearest town. Finally got bike to Triumph dealer who quickly stripped bike down, diagnosis was bad both bearings had totally collapsed (exploded) the output shaft and gears were damaged. Some parts of both bearings were missing presumed travelling around engine internals somewhere and the crankcase were badly damaged internally, the whole area within the output housing was covered in a fine metal paste.
New crankcases / oil pump / output assembly and gaskets etc plus full rebuild to cost approx 10K, yes thats ten thousand dollars it would never be the same bike and I just cannot afford it. Not sure which direction to take next, secondhand engine? buy a wrecked R3? are they available?, not in a good head space right now.
RIP MY R3

Geez mate, I'm sorry to see that, 10K is terrible, there was a nice R3 on eBay a few days ago for 10K "Buy it now" that looked to be in good nick, you could buy that bike and sell the remains of yours (wheels forks brakes cosmetics injection electrics head etc) and get most of your money back, or do an engine swap and keep your bike and sell off the ebay bike, less engine?

As an epitaph to my story, my bike is going well, but I kept hounding Peter Stevens (City Triumph) about the cost, and they've offered to refund 300 bucks, and do my next service free of charge. Nowhere near 2200 bucks, but better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, and I can use the 300 to buy a gel seat to replace the OEM torture device. Cheers, Terry.

 

[seeya]

finally picked up my parts yesterday, I can't wait to get the beast apart and the new torsional damper put in and back together, I really need some rocket therapy. My kit came with new dampner with bearings, gasket, new casting, and seal. Dealer was explaining to me that I didn't have to pull the rear axle, just drop the caliper, unbolt shocks, and swingarm, lift the bike and roll the swingarm out with the rear tire. I never heard of doing that before but I'm gonna give it a try. I wanted to do it today but I have a practice pen and need to buck some bulls.

 

[TerrysR3]

Ha ha, geez mate, I've gotta get new glasses, I had to read your last sentence twice to understand what you were gonna do with those bulls!

Anyway, did you buy the "Upgrade kit", or is this something else you're doing? I asked a while ago if anyone knows what the upgrade kit consists of, as I'd like to know what's actually been upgraded?

Can I assume that once the output shaft bearing has been replaced, and the upgrade kit installed, that I don't have to worry about the situation arising again in another 6000 miles? Cheers, Terry. ;D

 

[Micksan]

finally picked up my parts yesterday, I can't wait to get the beast apart and the new torsional damper put in and back together, I really need some rocket therapy. My kit came with new dampner with bearings, gasket, new casting, and seal. Dealer was explaining to me that I didn't have to pull the rear axle, just drop the caliper, unbolt shocks, and swingarm, lift the bike and roll the swingarm out with the rear tire. I never heard of doing that before but I'm gonna give it a try. I wanted to do it today but I have a practice pen and need to buck some bulls.

I just got through with that job. I am afraid that it is a lot more entailed than what you think.
You will have to start removing things sat the rear wheel , and work forward. The swing arm has to come off. Remove the engine mount bolts at the rear of the engine. Loosen the raditor hoses going to the engine. The frame has to be able to swing up , so the front top engine bolt to frame has to come out. Raise the frame enough to get at the cover bolts . Have lots of parts jars to keep the bolts ect together . You will need a press.
I have a chain hoist in my shop so it made it a bit easier. If you have something to hook into your ceiling , like a Eye you screw into a joist , and lift with a pully from Ace Hardware , it will make life a lot easier.