Jvheli

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2016 Rocket Roadster
2016 Roadster. Is it possible to have more power with everything stock but a sweet tune that Triumph won't have a heart attack over? Seems my dealer isn't all too knowledgable on Rocket tunes....also I'd guess a richer tune would ease the right leg barbecue action!
 
Yes, I'd say there's a more potent tune available.....look for the thread on TuneEcu, it will give you all the details with which to get started. As for the right leg barbecue....It's gonna bake anyway I'd say....just keep your speed up, and most of it blows away. If you don't have dresser bars and highway pegs, they do help move your leg up and away from the heat once you are up to speed and ready to put your feet on them. Makes a huge difference!
 
2016 Roadster. Is it possible to have more power with everything stock but a sweet tune that Triumph won't have a heart attack over? Seems my dealer isn't all too knowledgable on Rocket tunes....also I'd guess a richer tune would ease the right leg barbecue action!
Tuning with stock intake and mufflers isn't going to do much. It's already unrestricted at peak torque. Bite the bullet was and buy the Triumph offroad mufflers and have your unknowledgeable dealer load the tune for that. This also eliminates the cats.
 
Tuning with stock intake and mufflers isn't going to do much. It's already unrestricted at peak torque. Bite the bullet was and buy the Triumph offroad mufflers and have your unknowledgeable dealer load the tune for that. This also eliminates the cats.
I'm surprisingly happy with the stock exhaust other than it weighing too much. So you don't think fattening up the fuel would give it much of a boost? I'd guess factory 14.4~14.6 afr. I know previous bikes were just a better ride all around with the afr @13.8~14.0 and timing optimized. If it's a waste of time I'm happy. But I don't like leaving untapped horsepower . I did put Dains 3 into 1 on wifeys bike with a Triumph map and it runs great, but has lost some low end torque.no decel popping etc, but my stocker still out runs it. Go figure.
 
They call it Rocket for a reason....it's pretty potent the way it's delivered from the factory. But what the factory chose tuning wise would certainly have to be something that is good for most buyers. Everyone will ultimately want to change SOMETHING, for all bikers do, I am pretty sure. But you can have an idea, but if it's not a specific result that you can name it's hard to map out a plan. And when you have nailed it down to specifics, you then tally up what's needed to make it happen....and it'd probably be more than one task or one new part. For in fact to get what Triumph has given us, they've had to select parts that work together to give us that. If we want different we are going to have probably to get some different parts that will work for what we want. The only thing I can see happening with all stock kit, is to derestrict the secondaries if you have a restricted tune. I don't think the Roadster does, but the Touring does, and that's what shapes it torque curve, albeit at the cost of some horsepower at the top. We can derestrict and get Roadster like performance, but we might loose just a bit of the lazy cruising that makes a touring bike possible. Or you could improve the factory exhaust with something a bit freer flowing, AND give a better tune to match, but not necessarily a Roadster tune, and you might just have a bike with nice touring manners, that will still gather up it's skirts and go when you twist the wick all the way back. Alas, the secondary throttle plates could be removed altogether, you add pod filters to each throttle body, and put a fancy exhaust on, then you will surely need a proper map, and probably there is already one that someone has made for such a set up. But that's a lot preparation, and modification. And it sounds like you would like not to go with heavy mods. So I think you already have a good tune for what you got. Though there may be a couple tunes you could try that moves your torque curve around and could possibly find another 10 or so horses. So long as you make a backup of your stock tune there's no reason not to try what's out there. Just be sure to choose a tune that matches your equipment. You can really make an engine go badly rich or way too lean if your tune is wild and you don't have the pipes and intake to match.
 
I'm surprisingly happy with the stock exhaust other than it weighing too much. So you don't think fattening up the fuel would give it much of a boost? I'd guess factory 14.4~14.6 afr. I know previous bikes were just a better ride all around with the afr @13.8~14.0 and timing optimized. If it's a waste of time I'm happy. But I don't like leaving untapped horsepower . I did put Dains 3 into 1 on wifeys bike with a Triumph map and it runs great, but has lost some low end torque.no decel popping etc, but my stocker still out runs it. Go figure.
I don't think it's worth messing with unless you get someone to dyno tune it. Even with that, I doubt you'll gain much low end torque. I had a 2005 with TORs. I got a custom dyno tune for that setup. The stock tune was restricted at the low end and the custom tune gave about 12 more ft lbs of peak torque around 3000 rpm. At the upper end where the stock tune was not restricted, the increase from the custom tune, which was richer, was less than a few HP. In your case, the stock tune is restricted at the high end so you might pick up something there. You could look at one of the custom tunes floating around, like Tripp's slip on tune, and use it to trim only the top end restricted part of your tune. You'd have to open up the secondaries where they're closed and insert the custom fuel values into your F tables.

Another thing to consider is your warranty. Triumph can detect if you've hacked into the ECU. It may not kill the ECU but Triumph could potentially hassle you if they find out. Your dealer may be OK with it, but if you have a problem with your bike, they sometimes connect it to Triumph central for diagnosis.
 
Tuning with stock intake and mufflers isn't going to do much. It's already unrestricted at peak torque. Bite the bullet was and buy the Triumph offroad mufflers and have your unknowledgeable dealer load the tune for that. This also eliminates the cats.

If your budget extends to an exhaust cross over box(that abomination under the bike )eliminator along with a set of TORS you will get a nice power upgrade and nicer exhaust note and still retain that stock look for Mr plod
 
If your budget extends to an exhaust cross over box(that abomination under the bike )eliminator along with a set of TORS you will get a nice power upgrade and nicer exhaust note and still retain that stock look for Mr plod
Mr plod. Mr plod, hmmmm. Who or what is Mr plod?
 
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