LED flasher Problem Rocket III Touring

[Hardy]

I replaced the rearflasher with 3 LED Flasher on each side (3x1 Watt). The LED flashers worked not visible when the machine was not running.
When the machine was running, than they flashed fast and they where only glowing.
I tried all availabe resitors. I can not go with a new relais because the relais in the Touring is not standard, it is build in the dashboard.

My solution so far. I have a additional bulb in the hardbags together with the LED. Now the LED are working in the right speed. But they still glow, a bit brighter than before, and my turnsignal is hardly vissible.

Any Idea?

this is a photoshop of my idea.

 

[Kmutt]

Typically load resistors are used for the LED conversions. I know someone with a R3T has done this but cant remember who. The flasher relay should be located under the right side cover (when sitting in the saddle). This is what my service manual indicates. Its the only relay on that side. You shold be able to purchase a "no load" relay and then convert to LED bulbs or strips. Others have used LED packages that come with a unit to convert the rear signals to run/turn/brake indicators. Hope this helps!

mutt

 

[Hardy]

Thanks Kmutt,
as you can see in the picture the Touring riders have 3 Relais under the cover (the red one is from the aftersales airhorn). None of these relais is for the flasher.

Touring Models have this unit integrated in the tach. Because Touring will reset the flasher after 63m of riding. Therefore the funktional of the relais is in the dash/tach as well. This unit is sealed and not a normal relais.

The service manual is not right in this point.

 

[HansO]

Thanks Kmutt,
as you can see in the picture the Touring riders have 3 Relais under the cover (the red one is from the aftersales airhorn). None of these relais is for the flasher.

Touring Models have this unit integrated in the tach. Because Touring will reset the flasher after 63m of riding. Therefore the funktional of the relais is in the dash/tach as well. This unit is sealed and not a normal relais.

The service manual is not right in this point.

Oh sh1t you got me buggered have you tried resisters on each indicator, sounds like they really F^^ked up there

 

[Hardy]

Hanso,

as soon I put the orgininal Flashlight on ( 10 Watt ) everything is perfect.

So I think it is a game with the resistors. Was in a special electronic warehouse to get some help. but the made me only more confused.

I read in an other German thread also about a resistor on each LED light. Well, will check this, as soon I am back in Spain.

May old lady is waiting there in better weather condition for some more rides during the winter. Actually I am in Germany and bike on the bike in few weeks.

Thanks for your input

 

[tdragger]

I ended up with Kuryakyn Load Equalizers (basically resistors) for each rear turn signal. I tried all sorts of other combos but this ended up being the best solution for me. Mounted under right side panel.

 

[Kmutt]

Have you pulled the right side panel? The pic is of the left side panel. Or just pull the opposite side panel There should be a relay (just one) on that side. Mine has it and I dont think they changed much from 2008 model year. Let me know...maybe something has changed.

mutt

 

[Hardy]

Kmutt,

thanks again. Unfortunately the bike is 1600 km away in Spain and its waiting for me. I will be there in 3 Weeks and check.

But I was in the dealers workshop to look for the relais and they could not find it either. So after calling with the service in England I've got the information, that the reails is somehow installed in the closed Tach-hausing. Because of the flashlight switch which stops flashing after 63 meters.

today I found resistors for 10Watt and I will take 3 of them with me towards Spain to put them together. If it works I let you know.

Thanks so far for all the help

 

[HansO]

Kmutt,

thanks again. Unfortunately the bike is 1600 km away in Spain and its waiting for me. I will be there in 3 Weeks and check.

But I was in the dealers workshop to look for the relais and they could not find it either. So after calling with the service in England I've got the information, that the reails is somehow installed in the closed Tach-hausing. Because of the flashlight switch which stops flashing after 63 meters.

today I found resistors for 10Watt and I will take 3 of them with me towards Spain to put them together. If it works I let you know.

Thanks so far for all the help

No Prob's just let us know how you go Electronics are one of those little things that get my juices going, I just love solving problems, this one is a Lou lou!!

 

[IMDave]

Same Problem... Have more info

I have a 2011 R3T. I did the following work, which turned out fine, but the turn signals flash way too fast:
- Removed front turn signals and replaced with super-bright PIAA bullet lights onto signal brackets (same size housing, looks cool).
- Wired PIAAs into high beam switch
- Installed/wired Kuryaken LED turn signal mirrors

It's been at the dealer for three weeks while they try to figure out how to correct the rate of turn signal flash. They found the integrated electronic 'relay' in the guage cluster. they tried all sorts of resisters in all possible positions. They can get it working with the engine off but, when they start the bike, they don't flash

Triumph was no help. They still don't have it fixed, but the remaining options are:

1. Install dummy incandecent lights in a non-visible spot (inside headlight housing, under side cover, or maybe external marker lights on the radiator) and wire in with the signals to create electrical load

2. bypass the stock relay completely and install a standard signal relay. Wire all the signals and switches to the standard relay

I will post in this thread again when they figure it out.

Dave

UPDATE:
OK, the dealer gave up... Ends up that resisters dont work at all. Dummy lights do work, but not all the time (sometimes they flash fast, sometimes slow). They ended up reinstalling the stock turn signals on the radiator cowling (I know, I'm pretty pissed off about it). Anyway, I'll figure something out eventually, but no good answer for now