If I got my cipfers correct


Curious here - Do you still have the OEM air box and filter?
 
Thanks for the info Ken. I'll wait & see how Brisan's go when they fit a new TPS & TORs map.
If they can't get it running right I'll go to Sports Cycles.
It just seems funny that it runs ok with the original map but the TPS plays up when they install a different map.
I'm a bit wary about getting a dyno tune since I got one a few years ago at Greens Cycleworks at Wallsend for a Harley I had at the time & it made hardly any difference. (3hp)
 

My experience over the years with some dealers is a bit of a mixed bag ,but I have found if you find a guy who owns the business and actually works on the bikes himself you mostly get a good result, every time I go to Sports Cycles there are high end performance bikes lined up for tuning, service or Mods, Jamie "unlocked" over 30RWHP in my R3 with a reliable result, the difference was amazing, but most importantly for me the bike is smooth and has heaps of lowdown torque ,the only time my bike has seen 6500 RPM was on the Dyno so that's how he tuned it setting it up for my riding style with a lot of two up long runs, good luck with Brisan's
 
Filthy Phil said:
Yep, I still have the OEM air box & filter. The only modification is TORs.
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IMHO retaining the stock air filter allows the TORs to make little difference.
Over the years on four different motors, I have found the change of both necessary to make any substantial improvement or require a retune.
Tis rather pointless to only change one without the other if you are after improved performance and the TORs look the same as OEM.
 
I will be eventually be doing the air filter as well. Probably just a K&N filter in the OEM box.
 
1olbull said:
NOT putting you down, Mate!
I just wish my brain (which totally understands the reasoning) could maintain control of my right wrist!
Riding motor is a dish best served in moderation, NOT full on or full off.
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We ALL have/develope riding/driving styles for different reasons and needs. If style befits long life in engine, parts and pilot while affording both thrill and thrift; whats to argue?

I rode my bike(s) 500,000 miles over 15 years as a legal messenger in metropolitan SoCal. At those kind of annual miles gas, oil, filters, bulbs as well as ten times the average 'exposure' to traffic enforcement become VERY relevant and omnipresent factors.

Interesting is this digression in the OP. Subtle ribbing(or sensitivity) for braggadocio born of low MPG. On other moto forums it's the measure of your chicken stripess (or total lack of) at tires edge that determines whether one is getting worth from their bike or ride.


Whether it be judged by tire wear or average fuel consumption
"There are no trophies given for riding the street."
 
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Excellent observations and comments.
I was pretty much born on a motor, had my first at age 4 (Dad was an Indian dealer), raced as a professional, rode motors for the PD and have continued to ride the highways of America ever since.
Twisties & Speed have been my addictions up to age 69.
"Chicken strips" and chamfered foot pegs are NOT the top test of a good rider.
Let's face it - the ONLY REAL test that means anything is how long in life we can ride safely!
 
it's funny when a post reappears from the past you kind of forget reading or posting comments on the subject or is it "old timers" disease coming on
 
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