How to TuneECU Video

[dougl]

Not clear what needs to be explained. What was the question? I don't know anything about balancing throttle bodies. You have to read the manual. You have to download the program to see how it works and compare some tunes you might be interested in using. Installing the cable drivers can be a problem and you can't make a video on how to do it. The process is different for different operating systems. If you are 't familiar with the windows device manager, find someone who is and have them do it. I always had problems getting Tuneboy to work. Tuneecu is easier. Operating the program for downloading tunes is pretty easy.

So what do you want to do?

 

[HansO]

Not clear what needs to be explained. What was the question? I don't know anything about balancing throttle bodies. You have to read the manual. You have to download the program to see how it works and compare some tunes you might be interested in using. Installing the cable drivers can be a problem and you can't make a video on how to do it. The process is different for different operating systems. If you are 't familiar with the windows device manager, find someone who is and have them do it. I always had problems getting Tuneboy to work. Tuneecu is easier. Operating the program for downloading tunes is pretty easy.

So what do you want to do?

Couldn't have explained it better myself Thanks Dougl and in the past when people have contacted me via PM I have requested their Phone (even international) numbers and talked them thru it because I do like to help people rather than constantly criticise them with sarcasms and innuendoes, Richard (get your head out of the sand) Grow Up.

I have learnt this stuff myself by READING the Manual and playing with tunes while not downloading them I also contacted Neville Lush (via PM for advise) and Wayne Tripp in the States via e-mail and phone to help me understand what I could make sense off he and other professional tuners and All have been very approachable.

 

[metalguru]

Much the same as you Hanso and dougl,
I have been in the 'trade' one way or another all my working life and the first time I saw TuneEcu I admit, I was rather confused, but I researched the subject with all the info available and read it till I knew what did what, there is a vid on utube although not Rocket specific.
Other Triumph sites have reams of info and it must have taken weeks to get the idea of TuneEcu, then experimented with my own bike (an 885 tiger called christine, don't ask), untill I had perfected the proceedures and was capable of making changes to maps that weren't detremental.
That was a few years ago now and things have progressed quicker than I thought they would and I can turn my hand to (re)tuning Triumphs and as many of my customers who are welcome to come along and watch say 'they knew how to balance carbs but this is different'.
I for one will help ANYONE as much as I can and if the problem is cured then it's a bonus but to use TuneEcu as a tool is by no means taken lightly, ie hitting it with a hammer is ok, but another way is, how hard, where and what size hammer, takes experience.
Strangely enough I havn't the faintest idea of how to load a vid to the net as my vid camera is tape and won't even connect to the laptop.

All the info is out there just research the subject. All the terminology is in the TuneEcu manual and what each screen relates to.
As far as diagnostics go I have found it really helpful for folks to upload screenshots when they have a problem and have fixed many bikes by this method (on another site) with great sucess, so a complete knowledge is not compulsory as there are many guys who will help the diagnostics, as this is a GLOBAL forum. (Treat us with respect & manners please)

The manual Triumph or TuneEcu doesn't tell you about the thick grease and ball end hex key required for refitting the induction pipes after balancing the throttle bodies!!! If you have got that far well done!!!

There is a lot more to it than just pressing a few buttons and unleashing torrents of extra power, if in any doubt what-so-ever don't do it, one mistake kills your ride.

 

[HansO]

Yeah I have it found it helpful if people send me a screen shot of their trim tables to help fine tune the PCV + AT to their needs and if they send a copy of their tune in the bike with an explanation of what is bugging them I can generally work out and help them but if it is beyond my abilities I refer them to get it sorted with a person who has a dyno so they can see where and why it is misbehaving as.
Without a dyno or a laptop strapped to the tank as Scot (Warp9.9) has done you can only make rough or close enough adjustments as on the following example a member from Victoria had a self made exhaust system that was very Free flowing and causing the bike to run extremely hot over a very short distance and he did not want to do damage to the bike in the process of taking it some distance to a dyno, he PMed me with his problem and by using his feed back and making 5% extra fuel changes after sending the tune back and forth 3 times it was running much better, after he had it Dynoed he got back to me and told me the dyno guy only needed to make some small adjustment.
What I am trying to say is that if you have any carby tuning knowledge you will after some reading start to under stand and be able to make changed to your fuel as long as you do it in small steps.
Don't touch the ignition tables ( except to copy the fourth gear over in to the first three gears to remove the triumph restriction) unless you have it on a dyno and the changes are being made by a professional tuner as it could lead to catastrophic damage if you get it wrong

 

[nolton]

Not clear what needs to be explained. What was the question? I don't know anything about balancing throttle bodies. You have to read the manual. You have to download the program to see how it works and compare some tunes you might be interested in using. Installing the cable drivers can be a problem and you can't make a video on how to do it. The process is different for different operating systems. If you are 't familiar with the windows device manager, find someone who is and have them do it. I always had problems getting Tuneboy to work. Tuneecu is easier. Operating the program for downloading tunes is pretty easy.

So what do you want to do?

If you are considering making a TuneECU video, assume that the person watching has not even downloaded the software yet then go from there.

 

[dougl]

HI Team,

So I took a guess at what to download under tools for Win 7. I loaded the manual driver for Win with 32 bit whosewhatists. I just tried using the program and all it would do is read it and test the tach, fan, fuel pump and the others options in the spot. But it said no adjustments allowed. Kind of what I wanted to do. Need the guidance of the group to get the most out of this thing.

The good news is the throttle bodies were close but the middle cylinder was 10 points higher. Maybe that should be as it is hotter in the middle. Any thoughts on that?

I found out my 2006 standard has tune 20226 with standard exhaust and no cat which is my setup and the new to me 2006 Classic has tune 20219 with D&D pipes and no cat.

Anyway, I know I am not getting full function from the program and would like to actually do something with it. Any and all help with getting the correct driver (if I don't already have it) and how to make changes is most appreciated. Please provide as much in-depth details a possible.

If you want a tune for your 2006 classic with D&D and cat bypass, try this:

http://www.tomhamburg.net/Tunes_in_...III/20050DynoFinalMap_TOR_CatBypass_Decel.zip

It is a custom tune for TORs/cat bypass from Wayne at Tuneboy. Once you have it loaded into the tuneecu program, right click on O2 sensor box at the bottom, disable it so the check is gone, and download into bike. Let us know how you like it.

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

I printed out the entire document. It is a book. I got out my 3 hole punch and a 3 ring binder and made myself a TuneECU service book. It matches my Triumph service book, same color just a good bit thinner.

OK so some more reading this morning and working with the "book", the laptop and the bike. I was able to reset some of the parameters for RPM max to 6650, fan temp on at 100 C, tops speed limit to 295 kph and opened the secondaries 100% except from 2000 to 3000 put those at 95%. Probably should do all at 100%. Didn't change anything else. Doesn't seam any quicker but yes it is faster.

Now what do I change to make it quicker ?

 

[HansO]

I printed out the entire document. It is a book. I got out my 3 hole punch and a 3 ring binder and made myself a TuneECU service book. It matches my Triumph service book, same color just a good bit thinner.

OK so some more reading this morning and working with the "book", the laptop and the bike. I was able to reset some of the parameters for RPM max to 6650, fan temp on at 100 C, tops speed limit to 295 kph and opened the secondaries 100% except from 2000 to 3000 put those at 95%. Probably should do all at 100%. Didn't change anything else. Doesn't seam any quicker but yes it is faster.

Now what do I change to make it quicker ?

That is a good start to make it quicker you need to go visit the shop that sells things like Cams, Hi Comp Pistons etc...... just kidding if you feel it is running lean firstly upload the tune from the bike and save it, then go to the F Trim table and click and drag the squares you want to give more fuel to when you release the mouse button you should see up and down buttons I suggest you do as I did while playing around only add 5% then go up to the menu and click under the edit menu the "use the F trim for all F tables" this will now have added 5% fuel to all the area selected but in the F tables now this next step is important select Save in the File menu it will show the name of the tune add into the name something like +5 so you can remember it having done this you will not have changed the original but created a copy with the extra 5% fuel. you can change the F/L switch points but that is later on, you can change the idle speeds at different engine temp's as well there are lots of things to play With But let common sense prevail and don't do anything that can even possibly be detrimental to the bike, don't even think about leaning off to try and get better fuel economy... most likely you could end up burning a valve or worse

If you want it tuned to perfection you still will need to take it to a top notch tuner with a dyno

 

[DaddyRabbit]

about how much for a dyno?

 

[dougl]

about how much for a dyno?

The dyno tune adds or subtracts fuel as a function of throttle position and rpm. This can be done using Tuneecu or Tuneboy which allows the tuner to change the maps directly and download the changes into the ecu. Not many tuners do this so you need to find one who does it routinely. With no learning curve, that could be 2-4 hours of labor. The alternative is to install a PowerCommander and have that tuned. This is a computer that intercepts signals from the ecu to the injectors and is programmed to change them to add more or less fuel based on the dyno results. The device is about $350 and tuning it should cost $200-300.