Discontinuing models - What's going on?

[barbagris]

Any piggyback system will be a good start. There are already full ECU systems - but good ones are not cheap - it'll only be serious gear heads that will be able to afford it.
My next bikes will all be old, have carb's and as close to zero electronics as possible.

 

[Paul Bryant]

Any piggyback system will be a good start. There are already full ECU systems - but good ones are not cheap - it'll only be serious gear heads that will be able to afford it.
My next bikes will all be old, have carb's and as close to zero electronics as possible.

I was just going to say that !
I know one would possible loose power, but what about a Triple side draught (or possibly it was a down draught) Weber or Del 'Orto and . . well not points ignition but something like that, no electronics.
Of coarse in this day and age finding someone who knows how to set up a Carburetor properly may be a problem

 

[barbagris]

Of coarse in this day and age finding someone who knows how to set up a Carburetor properly may be a problem

After 38 years of Guzzis/Ducatis/Laverdas - and a course at Dell'orto - I have a fighting chance. Last year my mate Mauro was commissioned to convert a Yam1300 to carbs ClassicCo – Yamaha Yard Built at Glemseck 101 - 35s in.

WalPhilips injectors - or maybe half a Porsche 6cyl intake setup.

 

[Paul Bryant]

After 38 years of Guzzis/Ducatis/Laverdas - and a course at Dell'orto - I have a fighting chance. Last year my mate Mauro was commissioned to convert a Yam1300 to carbs ClassicCo – Yamaha Yard Built at Glemseck 101 - 35s in.

WalPhilips injectors - or maybe half a Porsche 6cyl intake setup.

Carbs are one thing that I did learn a lot about.
Back in about 197....5? I had a Combat Commando, with amoungst other "stuff" it had a 40 DCOE side draught Weber. 810 Dunstall kit blah blah blah!
Fortunately there was a local Tuner who new how to set these things up, it did go very well.
Check out the "six bends" you can see the Weber sitting in there.
I'd started building Exhaust Systems way back then.
Digital photo of a film print.

 

[grampi]

Any piggyback system will be a good start. There are already full ECU systems - but good ones are not cheap - it'll only be serious gear heads that will be able to afford it.
My next bikes will all be old, have carb's and as close to zero electronics as possible.

No, not carbs! Simple is good, but I draw the line at carburetors...those things are a royal PITA! I'll take FI over carbs any day...

 

[GPMAZ]

Well its a good story but they been saying this stuff for ever and it just keeps going on and on and the bikes and cars keep getting faster and faster 1000 + HP cars and 200+ hp bikes and its not going to end they have electric cars that will run 0 to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds

Not exactly sure what the last half of that sentence meant. Did you mean until they have electric cars... or that they now have them? In either case, its not so much about the development of alternatives, although those are rapidly advancing, as it is about government regulations spawned by the environmental movement. Regardless of the fact that gasoline engines have become increasingly clean, to the point of being almost benign in terms of emissions, those who write the rules won't stop until they disappear altogether.

While here in the Phoenix area they recently changed the law and removed the requirement for motorcycles to be emission tested, actually recognizing that the effect of emissions by new motorcycles was statistically insignificant, I don't see that happening elsewhere. No, its not about the demise of the internal combustion due to better technology, its about the demise due to increased government regulation.

 

[rocketjohn]

Ya, alternatives I don't mind and it's the nature of technology, to advance. What I don't like is regulations!

 

[barbagris]

No, not carbs! Simple is good, but I draw the line at carburetors...those things are a royal PITA! I'll take FI over carbs any day...

But Carb's are ANALOGUE - SO is combustion. FI is fine as long as it's MECHANICAL FI. Electrickery is horrid and nasty. Without it there would be NO computers or bloody mobile phones.

 

[Lemieuxfan]

Some really good points being brought up here; I think Triumph has had such success with the new Bonneville lineup then you add what they already get from the pricey Tigers and you fear the worst for not just the R3 but Thunderbird as well. I think it all comes down to profit margins the R3 and T-bird cost a lot of money to build and assemble whereas the smaller Bonnies don't carry the same opex (operating expense)

I hope Triumph wakes up and realizes not everyone who rides a Triumph is the late 20's-30's hipster living in the city eating from foodtrucks drinking overpriced dark bottle beers

 

[sonny]

IN the last 10 plus years of riding here in Oklahoma i have only seen one Rocket. That was back in 05. Sure we all know of about three or four Rocket owners in Oklahoma but 99% of the people I run across riding back and forth to work everyday ask "What the hell is that" or there is this comment "What a neat looking bike who makes it?" Back before I bought the Harley I rode a Bonneville and had basically the same response. Even had a guy one day ask me if the Bonneville was one of them new Honda's ? Then there are always the guys who say they were not aware that truimph was still in business. Getting the picture here. Sad but true Triumph has failed at marketing. Now truimph is making a sad attempt at pushing Bonneville's to the cool and hip. Doomed attempt. I think it would be safe to say that most of us on this site could really give a **** about looking cool. The cool and hip are buying Harley's. So that leaves the Rocket, A bike that very few realize even exist and one look at it scares most folks away just by its size. Lucky for us their will always be some forty plus guy with a few bucks to spare that has rode for a while and becomes aware of the beast. That is how the bike has survived and that my folks is why Truimph will more than likely continue with the Rocket.