Check your plugs lately?

[HansO]

It's post like these that keep me from altering my bike other than a gipro
Mully's problem are not typical, mostly the Rocket is probally the easiest bike I have gotten extra performance from
It I want hyper I will buy a ****** rocket or borrow my buddy's dirt bike

I have seen "PCV + AT" but have not took the time to figure out what it is. What are the advantages of it over TuneECU? I like tunecu because its free!

I would like to get the bike running smoothly again call it quits lol

The TuneECU is great for getting a map that works with differant set ups but you have to remember it was dyno on another bike that created that map. So to get the best out of it you would need to take it to a dyno to fine tune all those fuel tables which are estabilshed by the dyno guy reading the AFR's you bike is putting out then by adjusting the fuel tables he would bring the readout AFR's in line with ideal AFR's in the map.
now the thing I noiticed after studying heap of different Maps I found that the one thing most tunes had was a similar AFR table that it was tuned to and as the PCV +AT follows a set of AFR's in the DynoJet (makers of the PCV) map used in the PCV +AT unfortunitly I found that Dynojet map were very basic and lacked the charaistics I wanted so I used the AFRS out of a reputable tuner (Wayne Tripp) Tunes and created a map which a few guys are using and enjoying with out the AT you would need to take your bike fitted with a PCV to a dynotuner to set up the map while having the AT is constantly adjusting the fuel tables to give optimun performance and has the bike running to those ideal AFR's All the Time a bit like riding with a dynoguy working while you ride, my bike nolonger runs sooty black pipes but a nice deep grey around town lightening up a little cruiseing, can't ask for better than that

 

[HansO]

Here's a thank you I just recieved fro the other site:

I got my old map trims saved and uploaded your map.

It seems to be a much, much nicer map than the one PC provided. Seems to be a little more peppy. Should also give better fuel mileage as PC's seems more rich across the board than the one you developed.

THANK YOU!!

 

[HansO]

I'm having the same problem and Wayne told me to check the plugs aswell. I will try to do that this weekend.
Does anyone know if an auto parts store carries those plugs of do I have to order them?

I bought them from NCY at a fraction of the local cost here NCY $7.50 aplug compared to $20 a plug here mind you that was Iridium plugs your local auto shop should be able to order them in for you

 

[mully95]

I'm having the same problem and Wayne told me to check the plugs aswell. I will try to do that this weekend.
Does anyone know if an auto parts store carries those plugs of do I have to order them?

Not iridium but I got mine in hand at Carquest. I was at NAPA first with no luck but the guy recommened Carquest for NGK plugs.

The TuneECU is great for getting a map that works with differant set ups but you have to remember it was dyno on another bike that created that map. So to get the best out of it you would need to take it to a dyno to fine tune all those fuel tables which are estabilshed by the dyno guy reading the AFR's you bike is putting out then by adjusting the fuel tables he would bring the readout AFR's in line with ideal AFR's in the map.
now the thing I noiticed after studying heap of different Maps I found that the one thing most tunes had was a similar AFR table that it was tuned to and as the PCV +AT follows a set of AFR's in the DynoJet (makers of the PCV) map used in the PCV +AT unfortunitly I found that Dynojet map were very basic and lacked the charaistics I wanted so I used the AFRS out of a reputable tuner (Wayne Tripp) Tunes and created a map which a few guys are using and enjoying with out the AT you would need to take your bike fitted with a PCV to a dynotuner to set up the map while having the AT is constantly adjusting the fuel tables to give optimun performance and has the bike running to those ideal AFR's All the Time a bit like riding with a dynoguy working while you ride, my bike nolonger runs sooty black pipes but a nice deep grey around town lightening up a little cruiseing, can't ask for better than that

Yeah I need a dyno in my shop lol
I will check Dynojet web page out later.

 

[scot in exile]

Auto parts store has them or the equivalent. I have used both and to tell you the truth I never noticed a bit of difference.

 

[fat frank]

Mully, hate to see you having problems. Without being able to put my hands on it, it's hard to advise. I'm running Bruces tune (about 15 hours dyno time,lol) and my bike is just ridiculously fast and runs great. He was able to get me ujp to 160+ torque and 156 RWHP. I do have the Jardines full system for the Roadster. Make sure yuou get the right heat number on the plugs. Ithink the Roadster is 7.
If it was me, Ild change the plugs and get your bike to a dyno. If you can't find somjeone to pull your tune and modify it if need be with tuneboy or tune ecu, you could get a PCV for it with auto tune. They make it nowd for the Roadster. Any ddynojet dyno shop(they're everywhere) can use the PCV.
Don't think of trying to go back to stock, just get it right.

Bruce is a great tuner and has everyone here running great. It's hard to just send a tune to someone cause everybike is different. The last thing he would want to do to someones bike is set it up too lean. Any tune you get wdithoutr paying the price of dyno time is just to get you started. Better to start off rich and bring it in than to burn it up running lean.


Wish I could help you more.

Get it on a dyno and get it right.
later and good luck.

 

[HansO]

Just out of interest how many miles have those plugs done Mully, something that probally should have been one of the first Questions asked

 

[mully95]

UPDATE: It was the plugs!

I got the new plugs in and it is a totally different bike...runs smooth...think goodness! I installed the stock tune for the TORS in which I noticed the L tables are the same but the other tables are different than the tune I was running. The bike runs so much better all the way through the gears and the idle stays consistent ....the idle has been erratic for a long while.

I will get to everyone's comments a little later....I'm tired...thanks guys!

 

[mully95]

Mully, hate to see you having problems. Without being able to put my hands on it, it's hard to advise. I'm running Bruces tune (about 15 hours dyno time,lol) and my bike is just ridiculously fast and runs great. He was able to get me ujp to 160+ torque and 156 RWHP. I do have the Jardines full system for the Roadster. Make sure yuou get the right heat number on the plugs. Ithink the Roadster is 7.
If it was me, Ild change the plugs and get your bike to a dyno. If you can't find somjeone to pull your tune and modify it if need be with tuneboy or tune ecu, you could get a PCV for it with auto tune. They make it nowd for the Roadster. Any ddynojet dyno shop(they're everywhere) can use the PCV.
Don't think of trying to go back to stock, just get it right.

Bruce is a great tuner and has everyone here running great. It's hard to just send a tune to someone cause everybike is different. The last thing he would want to do to someones bike is set it up too lean. Any tune you get wdithoutr paying the price of dyno time is just to get you started. Better to start off rich and bring it in than to burn it up running lean.


Wish I could help you more.

Get it on a dyno and get it right.
later and good luck.

Can't take it to a dyno right now...$$$
I've been using one of Bruces tune but its to rich.
I bought the exact plugs that was in it. Yes the plugs are 7. The PCV+AT is definitely on the wish list.

Just out of interest how many miles have those plugs done Mully, something that probally should have been one of the first Questions asked

9500 miles

After reading up on the PCV I'm interested!

 

[nolton]

Can't take it to a dyno right now...$$$
I've been using one of Bruces tune but its to rich.
I bought the exact plugs that was in it. Yes the plugs are 7. The PCV+AT is definitely on the wish list.




9500 miles

After reading up on the PCV I'm interested!

Save up the money and do the dyno. Its worth it.