Australia Day .. Qld Style

[TOMCAT]

Saw that on the news last night, was thinking they were probably known to you. The news showed the cops back at someone's home confiscating a Harley. I was left wondering why. I read a bit on these new laws and it's all a bit over my head but from what I can make of it if you Speak to a patch holder in public you are an associate and will remain one while ever these laws are in. If you speak to 2 patch holders or 1 patch holder and another associate or 2 other associates you can be locked in solitary with no chance of bail till your court hearing. That means that after attending Peck's funeral and talking to a bloke at the wake wich was at a local hotel Julie and I and most my mates are associates. It may be a long shot but 3 of us in public and it's straight to jail do not pass go.

That was Crows bike on the tv .. cops have stated they intend to apply to have it and Ants bikes crushed. The stupidity of these laws are no-one actually knows who is declared or who isn't. What you said Bruce may be right .. but no-one is actually 100% sure. Government have stated there is no 'legally binding' way for anyone to leave a club or dis-associate and be out of danger. Truth is the broad brush approach of this legislation leaves potentially thousands of Queenslanders at risk of falling into the 'deemed associate' class. Anyone who is a workmate , childhood friend , brother , father ,sisters , partner or even been for a ride with a club .. anything at all to do with a 1%er is potentially at risk .. it's actually a near bottomless pit when you think about it.

 

[RocketRoger]

So what is the cause of Gov. aggressive tactics?

 

[TOMCAT]

The usual old ever popular law and order agenda that newly elected Governments seem to take , taken to the extremes. Great way to divert from the real issues impacting society. All well and good claiming 'bikies' supply drugs to young people , which we all know in some cases is true. No-one wants to ask or answer the hard question .. why do a significant percentage of our youth choose to spend from knock off on Friday until Sunday drugged and drunk . Without demand there would be no profit in supply. Violence in our communities is only partially to blame on substance misuse .. as much to blame is the sense of hopelessness and doubt in a secure future that so many young people express. Bare existence wage structures , overpriced accommodation , home ownership unachievable and uncertainty of ongoing employment are all reason youth give for not really giving a f#ck. Always good to have a bogey man to divert attention from what's really frightening

 

[Rolltide100]

Well said TC it is all smoke and mirrors and unfortunately the masses have become so desensitized that they are buying into it. Easy for a pickpocketing on a confused and crowded street, no one is seeing it. If they do most don't have the nerve to take a stand and do whats right. Hopefully someday things will turn around, sad thing is at my age I don't think I will ever live to see it. Frightening for future generations to say the least!

 

[RocketRoger]

Sounds like the "haves and have nots." When in society has it not existed?
When the inbalance becomes intolerable their is always change...

I worry about the USA. Not continuing in direction started or intended in many respects, but not all. Like I read, USA worst Goverment in the world...except for all the rest.

Get out and vote, vote, vote.

 

[RocketRoger]

The usual old ever popular law and order agenda that newly elected Governments seem to take , taken to the extremes. Great way to divert from the real issues impacting society. All well and good claiming 'bikies' supply drugs to young people , which we all know in some cases is true. No-one wants to ask or answer the hard question .. why do a significant percentage of our youth choose to spend from knock off on Friday until Sunday drugged and drunk . Without demand there would be no profit in supply. Violence in our communities is only partially to blame on substance misuse .. as much to blame is the sense of hopelessness and doubt in a secure future that so many young people express. Bare existence wage structures , overpriced accommodation , home ownership unachievable and uncertainty of ongoing employment are all reason youth give for not really giving a f#ck. Always good to have a bogey man to divert attention from what's really frightening

Appreciate your reply.

 

[TOMCAT]

Appreciate your reply.

Just my take on it .. sure many will disagree or argue the point.